2nd Bond films Ranking

#1

Forgive me if someone else started a similar thread in the past but here are my thoughts on the the best second Bond film.

My ranking would go:

Dalton-Licence to Kill
Connery- From Russia With Love
Craig-Quantum of Solace
Brosnan-Tomorrow Never Dies
Moore-The Man With the Golden Gun

In each of these films the actor now having had a successful debut, is able to build on the performance of the previous one. Dalton and Craig especially bring a higher level of intensity due to the circumstances. Connery is more relaxed and allows us to see Bond in more casual settings. Brosnan seems far more confident and owns the role in a way he didn’t in Goldeneye. Moore is colder in The Man With the Golden Gun which I find interesting but audiences did not and a lighter approach was used henceforth.

I actually believe From Russia With Love is a superior spy thriller than Licence but Licence has highs so in tune with Dalton’s Bond that I prefer it. For all of Quantum’s flaws it shows Bond going through a grieving process. Tomorrow Never Dies is one of the more watchable Bond films. Only The Man With the Golden Gun is a disappointment.

#2

Interesting ranking. For me move, TND to number 2 and that would be my ranking.

Dalton LTK
Brosnan TND
Connery FRWL
Craig QoS
Moore TMWTGG
Lazenby ?

Licence to Kill has moved very close to becoming my favorite Bond film over my last few viewings. A vastly underrated adventure of deception, violence, vengeance, and action.

Check out my musings in other threads for Tomorrow Never Dies.

From Russia With Love has many great things about it, but it’s still undone by dissecting the villain’s plan at the beginning leaving the mystery for Bond to figure out, but we as the audience know the whole time. TB has the same issue in that, it robs the film of much of its suspense. For example, we already know that Grant is impersonating Nash. Wouldn’t the film work better if we hadn’t known that the whole time? Also, it completely rips of North by Northwest.

Quantum of Solace needed more time in the oven before releasing. Though Craig is arguably at his best and Kurylenko and Arterton are excellent as the leading ladies.

The Man with the Golden Gun features as excellent villain and well not much else. A return of the awful JW Pepper and a slide whistle weaken a film that is already adapting a weak story.

Lazenby’s 2nd was I dunno, maybe Universal Soldier? Or maybe an underwear ad? Either way, still better than CR 67.

#3

Craig-Quantum of Solace
Connery- From Russia With Love
Moore-The Man With the Golden Gun
Brosnan-Tomorrow Never Dies
Dalton-Licence to Kill

No brainer.

#4

I love this type of exercise and it’s helped me realise that overall I’d say each actor generally gets a botched second entry for whatever reason!

  1. FRWL
    At times tedious and at times clunky, it’s at least a solid spy movie - maybe only TLD qualifies alongside it as a spy movie - with lovely creamy photography. It’s the only second movie to improve on the first.

  2. TMWTGG
    A cheap, nasty and slapdash piece of work but what a hoot! Good for a laugh and effortlessly entertaining, but maybe that’s the problem. Hamilton could do this sort of stuff in his sleep. Leaves a gross taste in your mouth. LALD has more bizarre energy and weight.

  3. TND
    Another rushjob but slick enough. Not a lot to say. A lot of the actors look miserable. The cracks start to show as soon as Bond hits the water on the HALO jump. Immediately dumber and broader than GE, but has a workmanlike appeal.

  4. LTK
    Another tired entry that leaves you wanting a big glass of water and an aspirin when it’s done. The trend seems to be rushing out a Part 2 and not having enough gas left in the tank. Dalton looks awful, the girls are repellent, and it looks like an America’s Most Wanted reenactment. Saved from last place in the franchise because it has a decent foundation and a few familiar faces.

  5. QOS
    The only downright unlikeable movie in the franchise. A waste of everyone’s time. Nowhere near as cool as it thinks it is. Full of missed opportunities and botched execution. Can’t imagine anyone in the mood for a Craig filming picking this one first.

#5

From best to worst:

Connery FRWL
Dalton LTK
Craig QoS
Brosnan TND
Moore TMWTGG

For me FRWL is the joint best Bond (with CR), so that’s an easy win.

It’s close between LTK and QoS. But QoS’ script issues are worse than LTK’s TV photography. Also, as much as i like QoS it was fair to expect better after the highs of CR. Whereas for all it’s downsides LTK is still an improvement on the turgid, snails pace, villian-less TLD.

However, it’ll always be unfair to compare QoS to other Bond movies, because of the writer’s strike (though i imagine someone will now correct me with details of strikes during other Bond productions)

TND would be higher if not for the very un-Bond Arny finale shoot out and (imo) Price’s too-panto villain. Oh, and the introduction of slo-mo in the franchise (don’t think it’d been used before). It really lowers the tone, but after DAD went to town with cringey slo-mo i don’t think we’ve seen it again (have we?)

EDIT: Just remembered, the barrel role car stunt in TMWTGG was slo-mo… which makes me hate slo-mo even more. They do an absolutely mind blowing stunt and then slo-mo it with a ‘Carry On movie’ swanee whistle. No more alcohol and drugs in the edit suite, please!

I quite like TMWTGG. But that swanee whistle…! And i just think the other 4 are better.

#6

This is a tough one because I like all of these films. But here we go.

From Russia With Love
Licence to Kill
Quantum of Solace
Tomorrow Never Dies
The Man With The Golden Gun

#7

Snap :slight_smile:

#8

George sort of had a second appearance as JB in The Man From UNCLE:The Fifteen Years Later Affair. [quote=“theSpectre, post:2, topic:1259, full:true”]
Interesting ranking. For me move, TND to number 2 and that would be my ranking.

Dalton LTK
Brosnan TND
Connery FRWL
Craig QoS
Moore TMWTGG
Lazenby ?

Licence to Kill has moved very close to becoming my favorite Bond film over my last few viewings. A vastly underrated adventure of deception, violence, vengeance, and action.

Check out my musings in other threads for Tomorrow Never Dies.

From Russia With Love has many great things about it, but it’s still undone by dissecting the villain’s plan at the beginning leaving the mystery for Bond to figure out, but we as the audience know the whole time. TB has the same issue in that, it robs the film of much of its suspense. For example, we already know that Grant is impersonating Nash. Wouldn’t the film work better if we hadn’t known that the whole time? Also, it completely rips of North by Northwest.

Quantum of Solace needed more time in the oven before releasing. Though Craig is arguably at his best and Kurylenko and Arterton are excellent as the leading ladies.

The Man with the Golden Gun features as excellent villain and well not much else. A return of the awful JW Pepper and a slide whistle weaken a film that is already adapting a weak story.

Lazenby’s 2nd was I dunno, maybe Universal Soldier? Or maybe an underwear ad? Either way, still better than CR 67.
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#9

Connery FRWL
Dalton LTK
Craig QoS
Moore TMWTGG
Brosnan TND
Lazenby (Oh, if only he had made a serious DAF following OHMSS)

#10
  • Licence to Kill
  • From Russia with Love
  • Quantum of Solace
  • Tomorrow Never Dies
  • The Man With the Golden Gun

The first three are all in my top 6 or 7 in the franchise (with LTK at #1), but the last two are among the weakest entries in the franchise.

#11

From Russia With Love
Licence To Kill
Quantum Of Solace
The Man With The Golden Gun
Tomorrow Never Dies
I think that after Goldeneye ( a prolonged advert for what never materialised ) I expected much More than the finished product. I remember feeling it was lazy and 22 years and multiple viewings haven’t changed my opinion.
Live And Let Die was a real high and the successor was not as good but it has charm