# Deathmatch 2024
**URL:** https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793
**Category:** Games
**Created:** [May 29, 2024, 8:00am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793 "2024-05-29T08:00:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Jim](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Jim)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2024, 8:49am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/21 "2024-06-07T08:49:50Z")
Having run this for five years now, at least for the more vintage topics, some trends may have emerged (trends that may confirm innate prejudices).
**Deathmatch knockout outcomes 2020-2024**
| | 2020 | 2021 | 2022 | 2023 | 2024 |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Winner | OHMSS Blofeld | Silva | Drax | Silva | Goldfinger |
| Runner-Up | Silva | Sanchez | Goldfinger | Drax | OHMSS Blofeld |
| Third | Drax | Scaramanga | Klebb & Grant | Goldfinger | Silva |
| Fourth | Klebb & Grant | Drax | Largo | Klebb & Grant | Le Chiffre |
Most successful players here are Drax and Silva with 4 placings apiece, although Silva the strongest overall with 2 wins. It’s… bascially the same names with the occasional random visitor, though. 2021 was the year Klebb was on her own, which seemed to open up the field a bit.
As far as overall form performance over 5 years goes, and settling seedings and pots for next year…
| | 2020 | 2021 | 2022 | 2023 | 2024 | Average form | Seed/Pot 2025 |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Dr No | 17 | 7 | 13 | 11 | 12 | 12 | Pot1 |
| Klebb & Grant | 1 | 12 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 4.4 | 3rd seed |
| Goldfinger | 16 | 9 | 3 | 6 | 1 | 7 | 6th seed |
| Largo | 7 | 4 | 7 | 9 | 8 | 7 | 7th seed |
| YOLT Blo. | 20 | 19 | 9 | 17 | 13 | 15.6 | Pot 1 |
| OHMSS Blo. | 2 | 1 | 5 | 1 | 4 | 2.6 | 1st seed |
| DAF Blo. | 18 | 15 | 17 | 14 | 16 | 16 | Pot 2 |
| Kananga | 14 | 11 | 14 | 15 | 15 | 13.8 | Pot 1 |
| Scaramanga | 5 | 6 | 4 | 8 | 9 | 6.4 | 5th seed |
| Stromberg | 3 | 21 | 11 | 7 | 7 | 9.8 | Pot 1 |
| Drax | 9 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 5 | 4.2 | 2nd seed |
| Kristatos | 21 | 20 | 15 | 24 | 20 | 20 | Pot 3 |
| Khan & Orlov | 15 | 17 | 19 | 23 | 19 | 18.6 | Pot 2 |
| Zorin | 13 | 2 | 10 | 12 | 11 | 9.6 | 10th seed |
| Koskov & Whitaker | 23 | 23 | 22 | 25 | 25 | 23.6 | Pot 3 |
| Sanchez | 8 | 8 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 8.8 | 9th seed |
| Trevelyan | 12 | 14 | 16 | 16 | 14 | 14.4 | Pot 1 |
| Carver | 11 | 18 | 18 | 18 | 17 | 16.4 | Pot 2 |
| Elektra | 19 | 13 | 20 | 19 | 18 | 17.8 | Pot 2 |
| Graves | 24 | 22 | 21 | 20 | 24 | 22.2 | Pot 3 |
| Le Chiffre | 4 | 10 | 12 | 4 | 6 | 7.2 | 8th seed |
| Greene | 22 | 24 | 25 | 22 | 23 | 23.4 | Pot 3 |
| Silva | 6 | 5 | 6 | 2 | 3 | 4.4 | 4th seed |
| Ober. Blo | 10 | 16 | 24 | 13 | 21 | 16.8 | Pot 2 |
| Safin | - | - | 23 | 21 | 22 | 22 | Pot 3 |
Some remarkable consistency overall, although it does rather play to a narrative of “with a bare handful of exceptions, the last 40-odd years of villains have been total rubbish.”
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### Author:  [@Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Dustin)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2024, 1:51pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/22 "2024-06-07T13:51:47Z")
Tremendous fun, Jim - and a goldmine of fandom preference data Eon would be wise to take a closer look at. The villain’s quality is a central element for how the films are perceived. Rarely is a weak villain seen in a strong Bond film. There must go more effort into the conception of Bond’s adversaries.
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### Author:  [@Double-OhAgent](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Double-OhAgent)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2024, 5:52am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/23 "2024-06-09T05:52:05Z")
> [@Jim](#):
>
> Some remarkable consistency overall, although it does rather play to a narrative of “with a bare handful of exceptions, the last 40-odd years of villains have been total rubbish.”
And in the Daniel Craig era the henchmen have been largely hit and miss as well.
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2024, 9:15am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/24 "2024-06-09T09:15:24Z")
I mean…that’s true for every era. Odd Job was followed by a guy who only gets remembered for his death that got the point.
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### Author:  [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/25 "2024-06-09T16:47:18Z")
It is probably wrong to expect interesting henchmen in every film - and after OddJob I would say it took three films until Wint & Kidd really hit it out of the park again, but then there was TeeHee, NickNack and Jaws - four films in a row, not bad. Of course, after that it took another four films (not counting Gobinda, although why not?) until Dario gave me the creeps. And then Xenia, sure, Stamper, kind of, and then… well long drought until the underused Hinx.
So maybe the era of the henchman was the 70´s.
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### Author:  [@MrKiddWint](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MrKiddWint)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2024, 4:22am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/26 "2024-06-10T04:22:46Z")
> [@secretagentfan](#):
>
> So maybe the era of the henchman was the 70´s.
Maybe the Moore Bond persona (test-run by Connery in DAF) meshed better with memorable henchmen?
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### Author:  [@Jim](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Jim)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2024, 10:05am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/27 "2024-06-10T10:05:19Z")
OK, the Group Stages of Songs has ended, spewing forth the following
| Group A | Played | W | D | L | F | A | GD | % | Pts |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Live and Let Die | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 65 | 9 | 56 | 87.9 | 12 |
| TWINE | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 40 | 32 | 8 | 56.63 | 7 |
| FYEO | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 36 | 36 | 0 | 50.45 | 7 |
| TND | 4 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 24 | 46 | -22 | 34.18 | 3 |
| All Time High | 4 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 15 | 57 | -42 | 20.83 | 0 |
It’s not so much the fact that Live and Let Die came out on top and gave the other fellas hell here - that, one could have predicted - but the margin of its victory is immense, albeit it was drawn in a group of pretty insipid old tat, All Time High, perhaps the last song to date with a generally sunshine-and-apples outlook on life, and nothing to say about death from what I recall, meets a grisly fate. What a miserable bunch we all are. That gulf between Winner and Runner-Up, though - yikes…
| Group B | Played | W | D | L | F | A | GD | % | Pts |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| We Have All / World | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 49 | 23 | 26 | 68.1 | 12 |
| YOLT | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 44 | 28 | 16 | 61.13 | 7 |
| TBall | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 42 | 39 | 12 | 58.35 | 7 |
| GoldenEye | 4 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 35 | 37 | -2 | 48.58 | 3 |
| TWotW | 4 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 10 | 64 | -54 | 13.9 | 0 |
That said, a love song can top the charts so it may just be down to the quality, after all. GoldenEye - a song about stalking someone, delivered by a victim of horrendous domestic abuse - will probably make it through as a Lucky Loser but this was quite a tight group - with one exception. Yes, I know The Writing’s on the Wall was deemed worthy of an Oscar but one suspects it may have been pity, or an attempt to just get it to _sod off sideways_. Not popular, is it?
| **Group C** | **Played** | **W** | **D** | **L** | **F** | **A** | **GD** | **%** | **Pts** |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| DAF | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 61 | 11 | 50 | 84.7 | 12 |
| Goldfinger | 4 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 51 | 21 | 30 | 70.83 | 9 |
| TLD | 4 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 32 | 38 | -6 | 46.5 | 6 |
| AWtD | 4 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 16 | 54 | -38 | 23.3 | 3 |
| LTK | 4 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 17 | 53 | -36 | 24.78 | 0 |
Hmm. A brace of Basseys one might have predicted, but the outcome does go against form and does give Live and Let Die a run for its money - perhaps. Although Licence to Kill does have a better goal difference and average than Another Way to Die, Another Way to Die did actually win a match. By one vote. Things are looking up. Ish. Note Goldfinger’s goal difference and percentage…
| Group D | Played | W | D | L | F | A | GD | % | Pts |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Skyfall | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 53 | 19 | 34 | 73.63 | 12 |
| Moonraker | 4 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 51 | 21 | 30 | 70.83 | 9 |
| AVTAK | 4 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 47 | 25 | 22 | 65.25 | 6 |
| TMwtGG | 4 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 18 | 54 | -36 | 25 | 3 |
| Mango Tree | 4 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 11 | 61 | -50 | 15.3 | 0 |
…because Moonraker has an identical result, and placing. Bit of a tumble for A View to a Kill given its seeding, but a strong Lucky Loser performance nonetheless. Perhaps it is unfair to include Underneath the Mango Tree but it’s not the worst performance of the bottom-feeders. Note Moonraker’s goal difference and percentage…
| Group E | Played | W | D | L | F | A | GD | % | Pts |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| NDIB | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 59 | 12 | 47 | 83 | 12 |
| YKMN | 4 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 51 | 21 | 30 | 70.83 | 9 |
| FRWL | 4 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 34 | 38 | -4 | 47.23 | 6 |
| NTTD | 4 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 26 | 45 | -19 | 36.4 | 3 |
| DAD | 4 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 9 | 63 | -54 | 12.5 | 0 |
…because You Know My Name has an identical result, and placing. Sorted out below. Ah well, it’s “the Group with Die Another Day in it”, but even then, No Time to Die won’t score highly enough to make it as a Lucky Loser. Curse of Oscar, maybe. Or just a bit rubbish. Die Another Die hits the bum notes for yet another year; you don’t need Sigmund Freud to analyze this.
**Form table - Group Stage - Songs**
| | Song(seed) | Form % | Group Stage outcome |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | Live and Let Die (1) | 87.4 | Winner A |
| 2 | Diamonds are Forever (8) | 84.7 | Winner C |
| 3 | Nobody Does It Better (6) | 83 | Winner E |
| 4 | Skyfall (7) | 73.63 | Winner D |
| 5 | Moonraker | 70.83 | Runner-Up D |
| 6 | You Know My Name (5) | 70.83 | Runner-Up E |
| 7 | Goldfinger (3) | 70.83 | Runner-Up C |
| 8 | We Have all the Time in the World (2) | 68.1 | Winner B |
| 9 | A View to a Kill (4) | 65.25 | Lucky Loser 1 |
| 10 | You Only Live Twice (9) | 61.13 | Runner-Up B |
| 11 | Thunderball | 58.35 | Lucky Loser 2 |
| 12 | The World is Not Enough (10) | 56.63 | Runner-Up A |
| 13 | For Your Eyes Only | 50.45 | Lucky Loser 3 |
| 14 | GoldenEye | 48.58 | Lucky Loser 4 |
| 15 | From Russia with Love | 47.23 | Lucky Loser 5 |
| 16 | The Living Daylights | 46.5 | Lucky Loser 6 |
| 17 | No Time to Die | 36.4 | |
| 18 | Tomorrow Never Dies | 34.18 | |
| 19 | The Man with the Golden Gun | 25 | |
| 20 | Licence to Kill | 24.78 | |
| 21 | Another Way to Die | 23.2 | |
| 22 | All Time High | 20.83 | |
| 23 | Underneath the Mango Tree | 15.3 | |
| 24 | The Writing’s on the Wall | 13.9 | |
| 25 | Die Another Day | 12.5 | |
The waffer-theen difference between the three songs on 70.83% finally sorted by how many votes they scored against the winner of their Group - with Moonraker doing best. Also, as it’s unseeded, possibly needs a bit of assistance into a higher orbit. Not that massive a lead this time for Live and Let Die, so it could all get a bit frilly in the rounds to come - if it makes it. A few jiggeries and a handful of pokeries were required to redistribute the Lucky Losers around the default Second Round draw structure, to avoid immediate replays of Group matches - this may yet come to have an effect…
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### Author:  [@Jim](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Jim)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 9:30am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/28 "2024-06-11T09:30:07Z")
Form table after Second Round - Songs
| | Song | Form % | (% shift) / place shift |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | Live and Let Die | 85.62 | (-2.28) / - |
| 2 | Diamonds are Forever | 85.6 | (+0.9) / - |
| 3 | Nobody Does It Better | 81.7 | (-1.3) / - |
| 4 | Skyfall | 69.48 | (-4.15) / - |
| 5 | We Have All the Time in the World | 68.6 | (+0.5) / +3 |
| 6 | Goldfinger | 68.42 | (-2.41) / +1 |
| 7 | Moonraker | 66.08 | (-4.75) / -2 |
| 8 | You Know My Name | 64.9 | (-5.93) / -2 |
| 9 | Thunderball | 59.62 | (+1.27) / +2 |
| 10 | You Only Live Twice | 59.48 | (-1.65) / - |
| 11 | A View to a Kill | 56.9 | (-8.35) / -2 |
| 12 | The World is Not Enough | 52.36 | (-4.27) /- |
| 13 | GoldenEye | 48.28 | (+0.3) / +1 |
| 14 | For Your Eyes Only | 45.06 | (-5.39) / -1 |
| 15 | The Living Daylights | 43.08 | (-3.42) / +1 |
| 16 | From Russia with Love | 40.14 | (-7.09) / -1 |
| 17 | No Time to Die | 36.4 | |
| 18 | Tomorrow Never Dies | 34.18 | |
| 19 | The Man with the Golden Gun | 25 | |
| 20 | Licence to Kill | 24.78 | |
| 21 | Another Way to Die | 23.2 | |
| 22 | All Time High | 20.83 | |
| 23 | Underneath the Mango Tree | 15.3 | |
| 24 | The Writing’s on the Wall | 13.9 | |
| 25 | Die Another Day | 12.5 | |
That’s… close. Tight in all the right places, the top two are just 0.02% apart and it’s possible that we will see a new winner this year. The top three are clearly pulling away and perhaps that’s no great surprise. Some fairly hairy Quarter-Finals to play out yet, though.
As is common for a Second Round, some sizeable drops and rises and, depending on performance, that lower end of the top ten could well be subject to further ructions. Let them all eat each other.
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### Author:  [@MrKiddWint](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MrKiddWint)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 2:17pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/29 "2024-06-11T14:17:28Z")
DAF just .02% out of first place?!?
I am verklempt.
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### Author:  [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/30 "2024-06-11T15:52:32Z")
Seems to me that DAF climbed a lot during the last decades - so… keep on doing the good work, and one day it will be no.1!
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/31 "2024-06-11T16:46:55Z")
A good chance that climbing has been brought about singlehandedly by @MrKiddWint infectious love for the film.
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### Author:  [@Jim](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Jim)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 7:39am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/32 "2024-06-12T07:39:24Z")
With some very tight Quarter-Finals for Songs complete, form table…
| | Song | Form % | (% shift) / place shift |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | Diamonds are Forever | 82.17 | (-3.43) / +1 |
| 2 | Live and Let Die | 80.17 | (-5.45) / -1 |
| 3 | Nobody Does It Better | 75.93 | (-5.77) / - |
| 4 | Goldfinger | 69.77 | (+1.35) / +2 |
| 5 | We Have All the Time in the World | 66.97 | (-1.63) / - |
| 6 | Moonraker | 66.08 | (-) / +1 |
| 7 | You Know My Name | 64.9 | (-) / +1 |
| 8 | Skyfall | 61.8 | (-7.68) / -4 |
| 9 | A View to a Kill | 56.9 | (-) / +2 |
| 10 | Thunderball | 56.55 | (-3.07) / -1 |
| 11 | You Only Live Twice | 55.45 | (-4.03) / -1 |
| 12 | The World is Not Enough | 52.36 | |
| 13 | GoldenEye | 48.28 | |
| 14 | For Your Eyes Only | 45.06 | |
| 15 | The Living Daylights | 43.08 | |
| 16 | From Russia with Love | 40.14 | |
| 17 | No Time to Die | 36.4 | |
| 18 | Tomorrow Never Dies | 34.18 | |
| 19 | The Man with the Golden Gun | 25 | |
| 20 | Licence to Kill | 24.78 | |
| 21 | Another Way to Die | 23.2 | |
| 22 | All Time High | 20.83 | |
| 23 | Underneath the Mango Tree | 15.3 | |
| 24 | The Writing’s on the Wall | 13.9 | |
| 25 | Die Another Day | 12.5 | |
Can it do it? Can Live and Let Die be usurped by Diamonds are Forever? They are up against each other in the Semi-Finals so let’s see.
Skyfall skyfell rather horribly, much to the advantage of some non-combatants failing upwards, and A View to a Kill slithers into a top ten finish from which it cannot now be dislodged. Maybe that’s “right”. Note the relentless march of Goldfinger… again.
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### Author:  [@Jim](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Jim)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2024, 6:46am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/33 "2024-06-13T06:46:36Z")
Semi-Finals done for Songs, and the form table reads as…
| A | Song | Form % | (% shift) / place shift |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | Diamonds are Forever | 76.77 | (-5.4) / - |
| 2 | Live and Let Die | 76.66 | (-3.51) / - |
| 3 | Nobody Does It Better | 75.93 | |
| 4 | Goldfinger | 67.75 | (-2.02) / - |
| 5 | Moonraker | 66.08 | (-) / +1 |
| 6 | You Know My Name | 64.9 | (-) / +1 |
| 7 | We Have All the Time in the World | 63.75 | (-3.22) / -2 |
| 8 | Skyfall | 61.8 | |
| 9 | A View to a Kill | 56.9 | |
| 10 | Thunderball | 56.55 | |
| 11 | You Only Live Twice | 55.45 | |
| 12 | The World is Not Enough | 52.36 | |
| 13 | GoldenEye | 48.28 | |
| 14 | For Your Eyes Only | 45.06 | |
| 15 | The Living Daylights | 43.08 | |
| 16 | From Russia with Love | 40.14 | |
| 17 | No Time to Die | 36.4 | |
| 18 | Tomorrow Never Dies | 34.18 | |
| 19 | The Man with the Golden Gun | 25 | |
| 20 | Licence to Kill | 24.78 | |
| 21 | Another Way to Die | 23.2 | |
| 22 | All Time High | 20.83 | |
| 23 | Underneath the Mango Tree | 15.3 | |
| 24 | The Writing’s on the Wall | 13.9 | |
| 25 | Die Another Day | 12.5 | |
Suspect this might have been the tightest round of Deathmatches for some years. There’s still a lot to play for, at least for “form”, in the Third Place Death-Off and the Final. Slenderest of margins at the moment, but could Diamonds are Forever top out the table with a good showing in the Third Place match? There’s even a chance Nobody Does It Better might do best and betterest of all. MY GOD IT’S TENSE.
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### Author:  [@Jim](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Jim)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2024, 9:40am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/34 "2024-06-14T09:40:23Z")
OK, so…
Admin first - Group Stage for “Bond” i.e. performance as the lead, per film - will open on 15 June and voting runs to 17 June. So that’s next. Brace yourselves.
There is a winner for the Deathmatch for Songs - but it’s as an only just since the Final was a tie and had to be decided on penalties. As below:
Goal difference overall (including Final): Live and Let Die was +68, Goldfinger +44. Point to Live and Let Die. 1-0.
Group performance: Live and Let Die won its Group, Goldfinger was Runner-Up in its Group. Some might say that a Runner-Up getting into the Final should be rewarded. Smell my no. 2-0 to Live and Let Die.
Largest Group win: Both achieved a 16 point margin as their largest Group win (Live and Let Die vs All Time High; Goldfinger vs Licence to Kill). 3-1 to Live and Let Die.
Largest other win: Both had 9 point margins elsewhere (Live and Let Die vs. A View to a Kill Second Round; Goldfinger vs. Skyfall Quarter-Final). 4-2 to Live and Let Die.
Common opponent: Only Diamonds are Forever (which has strongly influenced this round of Deathmatches, see further on form) - Live and Let Die beat it in the Semi-Finals, Goldfinger lost to it in the Group Stage. 5-2 to Live and Let Die.
Overall form: Live and Let Die stronger % form throughout. 6-2 to Live and Let Die.
Accordingly:
**Deathmatch knockout - Songs**
**Winner:** Live and Let Die
**Runner-Up:** Goldfinger
**Third:** Diamonds are Forever
**Fourth:** We Have All the Time in the World
Form table etc to follow - some final surprises…
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### Author:  [@Jim](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Jim)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2024, 12:51pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/35 "2024-06-14T12:51:42Z")
Starting with the **final form table for Songs, for 2024**
| | Song (seed) | Form % | (% shift) / place shift |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | Diamonds are Forever (8) | 76.2 | (-0.57) / - |
| 2 | Nobody Does It Better (6) | 75.93 | (-) / +1 |
| 3 | Live and Let Die (1) | 73.33 | (-3.33) / -1 |
| 4 | Moonraker | 66.08 | (-) / +1 |
| 5 | Goldfinger (3) | 65.53 | (-2.22) / -1 |
| 6 | You Know My Name (5) | 64.9 | |
| 7 | Skyfall (7) | 61.8 | (-) / +1 |
| 8 | We Have All the Time in the World (2) | 59.26 | (-4.49) / -1 |
| 9 | A View to a Kill (4) | 56.9 | |
| 10 | Thunderball | 56.55 | |
| 11 | You Only Live Twice (9) | 55.45 | |
| 12 | The World is Not Enough (10) | 52.36 | |
| 13 | GoldenEye | 48.28 | |
| 14 | For Your Eyes Only | 45.06 | |
| 15 | The Living Daylights | 43.08 | |
| 16 | From Russia with Love | 40.14 | |
| 17 | No Time to Die | 36.4 | |
| 18 | Tomorrow Never Dies | 34.18 | |
| 19 | The Man with the Golden Gun | 25 | |
| 20 | Licence to Kill | 24.78 | |
| 21 | Another Way to Die | 23.2 | |
| 22 | All Time High | 20.83 | |
| 23 | Underneath the Mango Tree | 15.3 | |
| 24 | The Writing’s on the Wall | 13.9 | |
| 25 | Die Another Day | 12.5 | |
And so it came to pass that Live and Let Die’s stranglehold on the category was eroded, at the final stages. Seeds scattered generally, and that tie in the Final could only be to the advantage of the top two finishers here. Still, something new and ultimately, a bit of a surprise?
Where this leaves next year’s Deathmatch round of Songs is…
**Seedings and pots based on form over the years**
| Film (2024 seeding) | 2021 | 2022 | 2023 | 2024 | Average | 2025 |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Dr No | 24 | 24 | 24 | 23 | 23.75 | Pot 3 |
| FRWL | 19 | 10 | 17 | 16 | 15.5 | Pot 2 |
| Goldfinger (3) | 4 | 9 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 3rd seed |
| Thunderball | 9 | 11 | 12 | 10 | 10.5 | Pot 1 |
| YOLT (9) | 11 | 6 | 6 | 11 | 8.5 | 9th seed |
| OHMSS (2) | 2 | 8 | 4 | 8 | 5.5 | 5th seed |
| DAF (8) | 12 | 4 | 5 | 1 | 5.5 | 4th seed |
| LALD (1) | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 1.5 | 1st seed |
| TMwtGG | 20 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 19.25 | Pot 2 |
| TSWLM (6) | 8 | 7 | 3 | 2 | 5 | 2nd seed |
| Moonraker | 13 | 13 | 14 | 4 | 11 | Pot 1 |
| FYEO | 10 | 15 | 13 | 14 | 13 | Pot 1 |
| Octopussy | 21 | 20 | 20 | 22 | 20.75 | Pot 3 |
| AVTAK (4) | 3 | 3 | 9 | 9 | 6 | 7th seed |
| TLD | 14 | 14 | 16 | 15 | 14.75 | Pot 1 |
| LTK | 16 | 22 | 21 | 20 | 19.75 | Pot 2 |
| GoldenEye | 18 | 17 | 11 | 13 | 14.75 | Pot 1 |
| TND | 17 | 16 | 18 | 18 | 17.25 | Pot 2 |
| TWINE (10) | 5 | 12 | 10 | 12 | 9.75 | 10th seed |
| DAD | 25 | 23 | 25 | 25 | 24.5 | Pot 3 |
| Casino Royale (5) | 7 | 2 | 8 | 6 | 5.75 | 6th seed |
| QoS | 22 | 25 | 22 | 21 | 22.5 | Pot 3 |
| Skyfall (7) | 6 | 5 | 7 | 7 | 6.25 | 8th seed |
| Spectre | 23 | 21 | 23 | 24 | 22.75 | Pot 3 |
| NTTD | 15 | 18 | 15 | 17 | 16.25 | Pot 2 |
Some interesting levels of consistency there. Not necessarily admirable consistency, but interesting nonetheless. Pot 1 next year could easily challenge some of the seeds otherwise on the slide…
With two rounds down for this year, time to start looking at the bigger picture.
**Deathmatch knockout outcomes per film per category, so far**
| | Villain | Song |
| --- | --- | --- |
| Winner | Goldfinger | Live and Let Die |
| Runner-Up | OHMSS | Goldfinger |
| Third | Skyfall | Diamonds are Forever |
| Fourth | Casino Royale | OHMSS |
Some way to go, of course, but patterns are emerging already. A couple of years ago, Goldfinger appeared at least fourth in every category; a Grand Slam, as t’were - can it do it again?
**Top Ten of everything to date**
| 2 visits to Top Ten | 1 Visit to Top Ten | Yet to bother the scorers |
| --- | --- | --- |
| Goldfinger | From Russia with Love | Dr No |
| Thunderball | Diamonds are Forever | You Only Live Twice |
| OHMSS | Live and Let Die | For Your Eyes Only |
| The Spy who Loved Me | The Man with the Golden Gun | Octopussy |
| Moonraker | A View to a Kill | The Living Daylights |
| Casino Royale | Licence to Kill | GoldenEye |
| Skyfall | | Tomorrow Never Dies |
| | | TWINE |
| | | Die Another Day |
| | | Quantum of Solace |
| | | Spectre |
| | | No Time to Die |
Possibly a bit early to draw too many conclusions from this. Some speculation maybe as to which film or films will be left in the zero column come the end of all of this. Pleasing start for Moonraker, there. Inevitable start for the Brosnans.
**Most Valuable Player - has to finish at least fourth (a “placing”) in the knockout to be counted**
| | Placings | Wins | Top Ten | Top Form | Points |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Goldfinger | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 6 |
| OHMSS | 2 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 4 |
| DAF | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 3 |
| LALD | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 3 |
| Casino Royale | 1 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 3 |
| Skyfall | 1 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 3 |
Again, may yet to be too early to call but it’s a strong start for Diamonds are Forever this year; can it mount (fnarr) a challenge?
**Form – the road to Best Picture**
| | Villain – form placing | Song – form placing |
| --- | --- | --- |
| Dr No | 12 | 23 |
| From Russia with Love | 2 | 16 |
| Goldfinger | 1 | 5 |
| Thunderball | 8 | 10 |
| You Only Live Twice | 13 | 11 |
| OHMSS | 4 | 8 |
| Diamonds are Forever | 16 | 1 |
| Live and Let Die | 15 | 3 |
| The Man with the Golden Gun | 9 | 19 |
| The Spy who Loved Me | 7 | 2 |
| Moonraker | 5 | 4 |
| For Your Eyes Only | 20 | 14 |
| Octopussy | 19 | 22 |
| A View to a Kill | 11 | 9 |
| The Living Daylights | 25 | 15 |
| Licence to Kill | 10 | 20 |
| Goldeneye | 14 | 13 |
| Tomorrow Never Dies | 17 | 18 |
| TWINE | 18 | 12 |
| Die Another Day | 24 | 25 |
| Casino Royale | 6 | 6 |
| Quantum of Solace | 23 | 21 |
| Skyfall | 3 | 7 |
| Spectre | 21 | 24 |
| No Time to Die | 22 | 17 |
Ultimately to be calculated at year end, based on the average finishing position in the category form tables. _Probably_ won’t be Die Another Day’s year.
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### Author:  [@MrKiddWint](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MrKiddWint)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/36 "2024-06-14T13:35:22Z")
DAF is the Jerry West/Chuck Howley of the Bond Songs Deathmatch.
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### Author:  [@jamesb007nd](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/jamesb007nd)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/37 "2024-06-14T13:39:44Z")
If only I knew what that meant. 🤨
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### Author:  [@MrKiddWint](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MrKiddWint)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2024, 2:14pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/38 "2024-06-14T14:14:06Z")
Jerry West of the L.A. Lakers was named MVP of the 1969 NBA Finals, which the Lakers lost.
Chuck Howley of the Dallas Cowboys was named the MVP of Super Bowl V (1971), which the Cowboys lost.
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### Author:  [@David\_M](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/David_M)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/39 "2024-06-14T15:24:08Z")
One thing’s for sure: Dame Shirley is MVP this year (and arguably of all time). Three turns at bat and a homerun every time. She’s the Babe Ruth of Bond songs.
Meanwhile, despite the famous line from her own movie, Madonna learns there is indeed crying in (metaphorical) baseball.
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### Author:  [@MrKiddWint](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MrKiddWint)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/deathmatch-2024/2793/40 "2024-06-14T15:39:58Z")
Dame Shirley is forever.
Fun question (not Sideswipe caliber):
Which Bond theme song other than the ones she sang would you want to hear Dame Shirley do?
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