# Debating TV shows
**URL:** https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771
**Category:** General
**Created:** [October 20, 2020, 10:20am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771 "2020-10-20T10:20:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 14
### Author:  [@stromberg](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/stromberg)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/262 "2022-07-25T20:52:15Z")
> [@secretagentfan](#):
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> Have we given up on anything else?
Ages ago.
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### Author:  [@Binder](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Binder)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2022, 12:12pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/263 "2022-07-26T12:12:46Z")
> [@secretagentfan](#):
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> why is it necessary to tell stories with palpably ridiculous situations?
Palpably ridiculous more-or-less comes with the territory with the superhero genre. If we broaden out to fantasy and sci-fi more generally, the more serious tone is much more prevalent - and, actually, lends itself better to more diverse storytelling.
I could quite imagine a serious non-ironic film with a protagonist genetically engineered to possess certain strengths, and those strengths being utilised in some way. So it’s not really the sci-fi/fantasy element or the suspension of belief that’s the problem. It’s more the concept of a superhero, I think.
For whatever reason, that strikes us as more ludicrous than ever in this day and age. Maybe it’s reflective of a wider loss of belief in authority figures? A sense that, ok, we know this is daft, so let’s all just acknowledge it. Or maybe the wink-wink gives the audience a sense of the smarts. I don’t know.
As long as t’other stuff keeps being made, I’m happy.
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### Author:  [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2022, 12:31pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/264 "2022-07-26T12:31:59Z")
I agree.
I just wonder why superheroes are still so popular.
Is it the cheeseburger effect? Offering people fast food makes them shrug off other nutritious fare and only grab the easy familiar stuff?
At which point oversaturation is reached? Or have we become so accustomed to it that we don’t want to abandon it?
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### Author:  [@Stbernard](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Stbernard)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/265 "2022-07-26T17:35:34Z")
They will go the way of the Western.
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### Author:  [@MrKiddWint](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MrKiddWint)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/266 "2022-07-26T19:24:01Z")
The Western still has a bit of life: DEAD FOR A DOLLAR by Walter Hill will premiere Out of Competition at the Venice Film Festival. All is not lost.
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### Author:  [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/267 "2022-07-26T20:03:28Z")
Will they?
And when?
And what will be the next genre to attract mass audiences?
Will the end of superhero movies also be the end of cinema?
Tom Cruise can’t keep on making TOP GUN sequels forever…
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### Author:  [@MrKiddWint](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MrKiddWint)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/268 "2022-07-26T21:35:54Z")
> [@secretagentfan](#):
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> I just wonder why superheroes are still so popular.
Heroes of one type or another have always been popular. At the beginning of cinema they were most often men, were uncomplicated, and identifiable by their white hats. In the 1950’s/post-WWII, they become troubled (the first instance of them going dark, e.g., in film noir and Anthony Mann Westerns), but remained largely male. Then came the anti-hero’s of the late 60s and the 70s (more darkness)–still mostly male, but more anguished than those of the 1950s.
Now we have a new cohort, the most diverse in history, and continuing the pattern of being troubled–but troubled in new ways sometimes, and with self-referentiality also being a new element. Maybe ordinary heroes will be the next turn of wheel.
As for me, I think I am going to watch SANJURO tonight–I find that he is a most attractive hero.
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### Author:  [@Stbernard](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Stbernard)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2022, 10:33am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/269 "2022-07-28T10:33:23Z")
Very much so
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### Author:  [@Arbogast777](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Arbogast777)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2022, 7:06pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/270 "2022-07-28T19:06:04Z")
Looking forward to this. The first show is a favorite…
> **[Krysten Ritter To Star In ‘Orphan Black: Echoes’ AMC Networks Series](https://deadline.com/2022/07/krysten-ritter-star-orphan-black-echoes-amc-networks-series-spinoff-1235079290/)**
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> Breaking Bad alumna Krysten Ritter is returning to AMC as star and executive producer of Orphan Black: Echoes, the upcoming Orphan Black offshoot series slated for a 2023 debut on AMC Networks̵…
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2022, 1:15pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/271 "2022-08-16T13:15:54Z")
> **[Ron Perlman, Nick Nolte, Charles Melton, Tim Blake Nelson Join Peacock Series...](https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/ron-perlman-nick-nolte-charles-melton-tim-blake-nelson-peacock-poker-face-1235341438/)**
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> Ron Perlman, Nick Nolte, Charles Melton, and Tim Blake Nelson have all joined the cast of the upcoming Peacock series “Poker Face,” Variety has learned exclusively. Perlman (“Sons…
Getting to be quite a large cast.
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2022, 4:48pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/272 "2022-08-16T16:48:28Z")
> **[Lisa Joy on Why the ‘Westworld’ Season 4 Finale Isn’t the HBO Show’s Endgame](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/westworld-season-4-finale-endgame-lisa-joy-1235199600/amp/)**
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> The 'Westworld' co-creator also discusses bringing humans and hosts closer than they've ever been, Dolores' new role in the sublime, and why everything old on the series always becomes new again.
Very interesting interview about Westworld season 4 and where it might go in season 5 (their last, if its commissioned)
> **Summary**
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> Try and ignore that the article needed an editor to look over typos as Thandiwe Newton’s character, **Maeve** , first changes the spelling of her name and then what she is actually called…
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### Author:  [@byline](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/byline)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/273 "2022-08-18T15:55:25Z")
I loved this season of _Westworld_ (especially after the murky third season, which left me feeling unsatisfied) and was sad to see it end. Unlike previous seasons, they didn’t have a teaser clip after the closing credits, so I was a little worried. As in, surely that wasn’t the end? Even though it has yet to be officially renewed by HBO, I’m glad to see hopeful signs that it will be.
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/274 "2022-08-18T16:05:05Z")
I was impressed by how they connected everything.
> **Summary**
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> It seemed very disparate for most of it, then would do a single reveal that connects what you’ve seen - the time jump reveal and where Delores really is was brilliantly done
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/275 "2022-09-16T17:59:56Z")
> **[Blade Runner 2099 Live-Action Series Is a Go at Amazon](https://www.thewrap.com/blade-runner-tv-series-ridley-scott-amazon-prime/)**
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> The “Blade Runner” live action series “Blade Runner 2099,” with Ridley Scott as executive producer and Silka Luisa as showrunner, is a go at Amazon Studios.
I’m curious how this does given both Blade Runners bombed hard at the box office, they had critical acclaim (well, the directors cut of the former did) and became cult hits\*, but never had a huge audience which is surely what Amazon is wanting.
\*I have noticed it’s other directors who do sci-fi films who are the most vocal of their love for the films.
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### Author:  [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/276 "2022-09-16T18:15:12Z")
I love them both and am curious how this series will shape up.
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### Author:  [@Arbogast777](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Arbogast777)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/277 "2022-09-16T20:04:43Z")
Any excuse to post this I’ll take it
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2022, 8:38pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/278 "2022-09-16T20:38:25Z")
Well owned
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [September 21, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/279 "2022-09-21T16:53:21Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj_qFctViCc)
Looking forward to this.
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2022, 4:12pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/280 "2022-09-26T16:12:25Z")
[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBRRDpQ0yc0)
Looks to be a close adaptation of the game.
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### Author:  [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2022, 11:35am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/281 "2022-09-27T11:35:20Z")
Once again, people: **The Orville**.
One of the most underrated, consistently intelligent, funny and entertaining shows around.
Watch it!
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