# Debating TV shows
**URL:** https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771
**Category:** General
**Created:** [October 20, 2020, 10:20am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771 "2020-10-20T10:20:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@HockeyMask](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/HockeyMask)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/382 "2023-04-13T23:53:11Z")
Picard keeps delivering! Only one episode was just so-so (Ep 7) but every other one seemed bigger and better than the one before. Fingers crossed for the finale next week.
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### Author:  [@Stbernard](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Stbernard)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2023, 4:29am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/383 "2023-04-14T04:29:03Z")
Great series
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### Author:  [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 8:28am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/384 "2023-04-15T08:28:35Z")
What a great episode.
And yes, I loved that fan service at the end.
That is what I want when old heroes reunite.
To be clear, I absolutely love this season. But it should have been the first season.
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### Author:  [@west](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/west)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 8:47am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/385 "2023-04-15T08:47:55Z")
> [@secretagentfan](#):
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> To be clear, I absolutely love this season. But it should have been the first season.
Agreed, I have a friend, who is a Star Trek fan, who has been trying to binge s2 so he can start s3. He finally gave up on s2 a few days ago as he was finding it too much of a struggle to get through and skipped to s3, which he is loving. I absolutely love s3, but I really do look back on s1 and s2 and scratch my head.
I was actually thinking that I wouldn’t have minded this season being officially The Next Generation season 8. It feels so separate to s1 and s2 of Picard and so necessary to the TNG mythos. It is a much a story and celebration of TNG and the crew as it is of the Picard character. And really, it has gone all in on fan service, why not go a bit further and call it TNG s8?
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 9:11am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/386 "2023-04-15T09:11:36Z")
I found
SPOILER BUT THE HIDE DETAILS TAB ISNT WORKING FOR ME
What the Borg have done, stealth assimilation of everybody using the transporters, Properly terrifying! The fan service ending helped, reminding you which crew can beat the Borg in insurmountable odds - which I notice they made a point of reminding you episodes ago when the captain of the Titan (RIP) was talking about Wolf 359.
I noted they got Alice Krige back as the Borg queen. That was a nice touch
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmDveS69shQ)
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 9:21am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/387 "2023-04-15T09:21:35Z")
TNG series 8 was what I was thinking. Picard has always been at its best when it leant in with TNG reunions.
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 10:43am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/388 "2023-04-15T10:43:32Z")
> **Summary**
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> Anyone who has used a transporter has been stealth assimilated by the Borg but the grandparents are on the way
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> [Engage! • Enterprise-D • Best Scene • Star Trek Picard (The Next Generation?) S03E09 - YouTube](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BtTBjxOow2Q)
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### Author:  [@west](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/west)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 11:02am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/389 "2023-04-15T11:02:07Z")
I did initially roll my eyes a bit at
> **Summary**
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> The Borg reveal, but that plot point of stealth assimilation was so good I quickly embraced it. And really, of course the Borg were going to show up in Picard’s swansong!
The finale of the episode:
> **Summary**
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> Incredible! Absolutely full on fan service, but I don’t think I’ve ever experienced such satisfying fan service! While I would have actually rather the Enterprise E be revealed (I _love_ the E and don’t think we saw enough of it on screen. I’m disappointed that it’s apparently destroyed/out of commission. The TNG crew had the D for 7 years before it was destroyed and then lost the E … no wonder they had a reputation with Shaw), seeing the crew back on the Entetprise D, in a new episode of Star Trek was a joy. An Enterprise D vs F showdown will be a great finale!
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 11:14am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/390 "2023-04-15T11:14:24Z")
> **Summary**
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> I would’ve been worried if it was “just another Borg episode” but they cut that down very quickly
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> [We Are The Borg! Star Trek Picard S03E09 - YouTube](https://youtu.be/9v1GTS82OhM) - again, I found all of them becoming Borg terrifying.
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> Anyone else notice the Admiral who accidentally went down on one knee to the Borg was the “Borg expert” from The Best of Both Worlds?
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 11:53am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/391 "2023-04-15T11:53:22Z")
The fan service bit at the end kind of felt like them assuring “it’s okay, we can fix this”
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### Author:  [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 11:56am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/392 "2023-04-15T11:56:34Z")
I am only worried now that the last episode will kill off Picard.
Or that there really will not be a season 4.
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 12:02pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/393 "2023-04-15T12:02:55Z")
I can see Patrick Stewart wanting a firm ending, but I also see Paramount wanting to leave the door open for another TNG reunion.
I mean, they’ve spent almost three seasons bringing back the one they killed off.
I’m not spoiler tagging that. Nemesis came out in 2002.
Tom Hardy was a complete unknown at the time.
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### Author:  [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 12:16pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/394 "2023-04-15T12:16:40Z")
I could see more TNG with Riker in command (if Stewart does not want to return) and those crew members who would like to stay on.
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 1:24pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/395 "2023-04-15T13:24:01Z")
I’m hoping that paramount take notes that what works in Star Trek is an ensemble, not a bunch of leads for separate shows. This series picks up massively when more of the ensemble are together.
Not just the TNG ones, the Titan crew did have a nice dynamic that could have held it own series.
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### Author:  [@west](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/west)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 1:48pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/396 "2023-04-15T13:48:54Z")
Absolutely, this is one of the reasons I think they did such a great job with Strange New Worlds, they really fleshed the crew out. It’s tricky to do in the 10 episode seasons we get now, but SNW showed they can do it.
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### Author:  [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 4:53pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/397 "2023-04-15T16:53:03Z")
This is also why I never really connected with “Discovery” - at least half the bridge ensemble remained unexplored and unused, focusing too much on Michael.
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### Author:  [@MrKiddWint](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MrKiddWint)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2023, 3:16am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/398 "2023-04-16T03:16:02Z")
> **Summary**
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> > [@Orion](#):
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> > What the Borg have done, stealth assimilation of everybody using the transporters, Properly terrifying!
> **Summary**
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> Sorta like social media algorithms rewiring people’s brains
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### Author:  [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2023, 12:48am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/399 "2023-04-17T00:48:05Z")
Again, terrifying!
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### Author:  [@west](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/west)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/400 "2023-04-17T01:52:37Z")
> **Summary**
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> > [@MrKiddWint](#):
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> > Sorta like social media algorithms rewiring people’s brains
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> Interesting analogy, especially when you consider it targets/affects the younger generation!
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### Author:  [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/401 "2023-04-17T12:49:07Z")
**Servant (Season 4)**
Hmm. I loved the first three seasons. No. 4 starts with two excellent episodes, and then I felt the story repeated beats from previous ones, then tried to give a surprise twist which was good… and then took it away again for an okay conclusion which still left me scratching my head because…
> **Summary**
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> … the baby which was supposedly stolen and exchanged with the doll was… what… never stolen but an illusion shared by everyone? The same baby we saw grow older and interact with other people?
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