# Debating TV shows

**URL:** https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771
**Category:** General
**Created:** [October 20, 2020, 10:20am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771 "2020-10-20T10:20:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/secretagentfan/32/504_2.png) [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2024, 5:32am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/662 "2024-06-07T05:32:49Z")

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Cannibalizing IP. How Netflixian.

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### Author: ![dalton](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/dalton/32/1973_2.png) [@dalton](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/dalton)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/663 "2024-06-07T13:48:23Z")

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I don’t know much of the details behind the Terminator series, as I just learned about it through this article, but the Ghostbusters series has been in some form of production for a while now, dating back I think as far as the production of _Ghostbusters: Afterlife_. Considering that the only reason the Ghostbusters franchise even exists as an active property right now traces directly back to the 80s series _The Real Ghostbusters_, Sony wanting to take another crack at an animated series in that universe isn’t at all surprising.

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### Author: ![west](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/7ba0ec/32.png) [@west](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/west)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/664 "2024-06-07T18:44:52Z")

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I have realised I have lost all interest in Star Wars, so have no intention of watching this, but had to laugh at the caption to this image from the Sydney Morning Herald:

 ![Screenshot_20240607_143043_Samsung Internet](https://uploads-quarterdeck-commanderbond-net.s3.dualstack.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/original/2X/5/55124d8f0a57c0a38f6f75d8d93efe6d45139478.jpeg)

Lightsabers, ponytailed protagonists, forrest/swamp setting, weathered tech set dressing, the generic Jedi robes that have been in every single piece of Star Wars media since 1977… there literally isn’t a single thing in the image that isn’t “Star Wars iconography”. In fact, if I asked AI to create a generic Star Wars image this would likely be the outcome.

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### Author: ![secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/secretagentfan/32/504_2.png) [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/665 "2024-06-07T18:58:15Z")

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Couldn’t make it past the first five minutes because I was bored and realized that Star Wars without the Skywalkers is just not for me.

I would start asking why everyone is now so young and doing kung fu and having no fun at all, just angsty platitudes.

And yes, everything supposedly new is just the same old stuff.

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### Author: ![Arbogast777](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/arbogast777/32/822_2.png) [@Arbogast777](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Arbogast777)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2024, 2:40pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/666 "2024-06-20T14:40:43Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/D2uSwItbBAg/maxresdefault.jpg "The Penguin | Official Teaser 2 | Max") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2uSwItbBAg)

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### Author: ![MaxZorin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@MaxZorin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MaxZorin)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/667 "2024-06-23T19:30:49Z")

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[https://x.com/PrimeVideo/status/1803820639419064644?ref\_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1803820639419064644|twgr^dbcb7aa6a1745a1789249615d18862fca69bf21d|twcon^s1\_&ref\_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbr.com%2Fbatman-caped-crusader-hamish-linklater%2F](https://x.com/PrimeVideo/status/1803820639419064644?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1803820639419064644%7Ctwgr%5Edbcb7aa6a1745a1789249615d18862fca69bf21d%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbr.com%2Fbatman-caped-crusader-hamish-linklater%2F)

The full voice cast was revealed in the trailer, this includes Mckenna Grace (_Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire_ ), Toby Stephens (_Percy Jackson and the Olympians_ ), Reid Scott (_Veep_ ), Dan Donohue (_For All Mankind_ ), Gary Anthony Williams (_The Boondocks_ ), Jason Watkins (_The Crown_ ), John DiMaggio (_Futurama_ ), Krystal Joy Brown (_Power Book III: Raising Kanan_ ), Michelle C. Bonilla (_9-1-1: Lone Star_ ), Eric Morgan Stuart (_Life Is Strange_ ), Tom Kenny (_SpongeBob SquarePants_ ), Minnie Driver (_Princess Mononoke_ ), Diedrich Bader (_Harley Quinn_ ), Jamie Chung (_Dexter: New Blood_ ) as Harley Quinn, and [Christina Ricci (_The Addams Family_)](https://www.cbr.com/christina-ricci-wednesday-hollywood-walk-of-fame-star/).

I hope that Mark Hamill can make a voiceover appearance.

Also, happy 35th anniversary Batman 89, and 9th anniversary to Batman: Arkham Knight!

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### Author: ![Arbogast777](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/arbogast777/32/822_2.png) [@Arbogast777](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Arbogast777)
#### Post date: [June 26, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/668 "2024-06-26T16:29:55Z")

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Cool. Batman just works best in animated, longer-form content

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/1TRK90KSkFM/maxresdefault.jpg "Batman: Caped Crusader Season 1 - Official Trailer | Prime Video") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TRK90KSkFM)

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### Author: ![dalton](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/dalton/32/1973_2.png) [@dalton](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/dalton)
#### Post date: [June 26, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/669 "2024-06-26T17:18:18Z")

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_Batman: Caped Crusader_ is looking pretty good. Looking forward to this one.

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### Author: ![MaxZorin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@MaxZorin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MaxZorin)
#### Post date: [June 26, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/670 "2024-06-26T18:39:32Z")

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I’m in! I trust the people in charge.

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### Author: ![Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/orion/32/1276_2.png) [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [June 27, 2024, 1:37pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/671 "2024-06-27T13:37:35Z")

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> **[Apple Sets ‘Slow Horses’ Season 4 Premiere & Reveals First-Look Photos](https://deadline.com/2024/06/apple-slow-horses-season-4-premiere-first-look-photos-1235984461/)**
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> Apple TV+ has set the premiere date for its BAFTA Award-winning espionage series 'Slow Horses' and revealed first-look photos.

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### Author: ![Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/orion/32/1276_2.png) [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/672 "2024-06-30T15:37:03Z")

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> **[Jeffrey Wright Joins Michael Fassbender In Paramount+ With Showtime’s Remake...](https://deadline.com/2024/06/jeffrey-wright-michael-fassbender-cast-remake-the-bureau-the-agency-1235983732/)**
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> Jeffrey Wright (American Fiction) has been tapped to star opposite Michael Fassbender in The Agency (fka The Department), for Paramount+ with Showtime.

Getting more and more interested in this.

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### Author: ![Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/dustin/32/7_2.png) [@Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Dustin)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/673 "2024-06-30T15:52:22Z")

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The Bureau‘s first season is a fine little French thriller; emphasis on suspense and intrigue. Have to chase down further seasons one of these days…

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### Author: ![Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/dustin/32/7_2.png) [@Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Dustin)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/674 "2024-07-06T22:48:04Z")

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After nine seasons of sleuthing, spread over 12 years, “Endeavour” ended in 2023 - and I finally finished the series recently. It started out as a quirky prequel to one of Britain’s crime classics, “Inspector Morse” and each new episode attested to the love and dedication for the original while being decidedly its own thing, set in the late 60s and early 70s, and pretty convincing for it.

The show is chock-full with pastiches, Easter eggs and allusions to the classics of its supposed setting as well as the wider field of pop culture. In “Endeavour” you get JAWS, THE GRADUATE, DON’T LOOK NOW, DOG DAY AFTERNOON as well as THE JUNGLE BOOK, Harold Pinter, Terry Pratchett and numerous others.

That said, you need not spot the references or be familiar with the original 80s series to appreciate “Endeavour” - although it multiplies the enjoyment if you do. But the series is firstly a very good mystery show in a late-60s Oxford setting that’s done quite convincingly. Characters behave largely like you would have expected them to _at the time_, not like our contemporary perspective would have them.

The characters are actually the secret weapon of “Endeavour”. The entire ensemble from Shaun Evans and Roger Allam to the last bit player is drawn with gusto and detail and the regulars are so engaging we actually care for them and eagerly anticipate their return.

The show was never intended to run indefinitely; the natural end of it was always the original series and Colin Dexter’s books. The aim had been from the start to leave a gap between “Endeavour” and “Inspector Morse” and do it in a way that explains the inconsistencies between the two shows.

I’d say “Endeavour”s final episode tries its best to achieve this.

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### Author: ![VolcanoCat](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/volcanocat/32/3844_2.png) [@VolcanoCat](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/VolcanoCat)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/675 "2024-07-07T18:26:07Z")

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I rarely watch TV - the set-up here is my office/mini-man cave is here in the hall, the big telly is in the adjoining lounge; mainly I only go in to eat and watch the news, but if ‘The Boss’ is out with her friends, I’ll always find old shows, if only to hear them; ‘Only Fools And Horses’, ‘Dad’s Army’, ‘Red Dwarf’, ‘Bottom’, ‘Father Ted’ etc. I always love to sit and watch ‘Columbo’, making it fairly unique in that I always go in to see it… ‘True Detective’ is one I watch on the monitor at my desk though, as are ‘Project BlueBook’ and endless films…

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### Author: ![MaxZorin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@MaxZorin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MaxZorin)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/676 "2024-07-08T20:56:43Z")

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[https://screenrant.com/the-batman-arkham-asylum-spinoff-show-cancelled/](https://screenrant.com/the-batman-arkham-asylum-spinoff-show-cancelled/)

I really didn’t care.

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### Author: ![dalton](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/dalton/32/1973_2.png) [@dalton](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/dalton)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/677 "2024-07-08T22:21:05Z")

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> [@MaxZorin](#):
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> I really didn’t care.

Wouldn’t be surprised if general apathy for this project had something to do with it being canceled. I remember hearing about this once when they were first talking about it. It never sounded interesting and they never put out anything that might have changed that.

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### Author: ![MaxZorin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@MaxZorin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MaxZorin)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2024, 1:26pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/678 "2024-07-09T13:26:16Z")

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As for my thoughts on The Penguin. Yes, Colin Farrell is a joy to watch as The Penguin. I just hope that the show won’t be required viewing for The Batman Part 2. That’s why the MCU has been a turn off for some people. As I said before, The Penguin is starting to become the equivalent of General Zod in Batman media: overexposed, with little of a new take on it. While not as bad as Zod’s overuse, Penguin has become too predictable for me. He’s also one of few flaws of Batman TAS. In more ways than one. So, while I trust Matt Reeves and company, it’s time for new characters to get the spotlight.

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### Author: ![dalton](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/dalton/32/1973_2.png) [@dalton](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/dalton)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2024, 4:54am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/679 "2024-07-18T04:54:05Z")

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> **[FX’s ‘Alien’ Series Gets Official Title ‘Alien: Earth’](https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/alien-earth-fx-series-official-title-1236075991/)**
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> FX's upcoming 'Alien' series will be titled 'Alien: Earth,' according to showrunner Noah Hawley and network boss John Landgraf.

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### Author: ![secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/secretagentfan/32/504_2.png) [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2024, 7:34am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/680 "2024-07-18T07:34:26Z")

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I hope this will not turn out to be a continuity problem as it was for Star Trek: Discovery which wanted to be shiny and modern yet a prequel, therefore it had to give ridiculous explanations in order to fit in.

Talking about diluting an original idea: if Aliens existed on Earth before Ripley encountered them in space… it makes the first movie feel kind of dumb.

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### Author: ![MrKiddWint](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/mrkiddwint/32/1772_2.png) [@MrKiddWint](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MrKiddWint)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/681 "2024-07-18T14:57:32Z")

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> [@secretagentfan](#):
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> therefore it had to give ridiculous explanations in order to fit in.

Don’t worry SAF. Even Herman Melville resorted to retconning in “Moby-Dick.”

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