# Debating TV shows **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [October 20, 2020, 10:20am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771 "2020-10-20T10:20:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/secretagentfan/32/504_2.png) [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 2:58pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/682 "2024-07-18T14:58:14Z")
If only Melville had written Discovery. ---
**Author:** ![MrKiddWint](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/mrkiddwint/32/1772_2.png) [@MrKiddWint](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MrKiddWint)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/683 "2024-07-18T15:00:20Z")
They would have bounced him the way they did Walter Mosley. ---
**Author:** ![secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/secretagentfan/32/504_2.png) [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 12:06pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/684 "2024-07-21T12:06:50Z")
As a Star Trek fan I am struggling to get through the last season of Discovery. Three more episodes to go, but whoever thought it would be a good idea to have the same structure every week (find one piece of the artefact, have one action sequence with Michael, spend most of the episode explaining a useless backstory in the most complicated way) must have been forced to deliver bad work. And while I never understood why the always crew-centered Star Trek had to be focused now on a very one note captain and one outsider (relegating the crew to exposition delivering or touchy feely dialogue like „are you okay? You can always talk to me“-„Oh, it’s nothing, I‘m fine. It’s just…“), this season even makes the best character Suru disappear with the feeblest of reasons. But as a completist I have to watch these last three episodes, too, and it is hard work. ---
**Author:** ![Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/dustin/32/7_2.png) [@Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Dustin)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/685 "2024-07-21T12:56:40Z")
I gave up on it after season two - and that I mainly watched for the Spock angle and its import (pretty flimsy at best) on Strange New Worlds. Discovery (like most of Picard) is a thoroughly flawed venture that should better have stayed on the drawing board. Ideally, to be cannibalised by a better show, like, maybe a series entirely set in the Klingon empire; on Cardassia or the mirror universe. As is, Discovery shed most of the interesting characters and potential from the first season and just didn’t get into its own stride later on, largely because it’s been conceived with a huge misunderstanding about how it’s set to work in the Trek canon. Ironically, all of this seems to have informed the Strange New Worlds production and made that show so much better for it. Hard to believe that some of the same creatives are behind both shows. ---
**Author:** ![Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/orion/32/1276_2.png) [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 12:49pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/686 "2024-07-23T12:49:13Z")
> **[Colin Firth Joins Prime Video's Upcoming 'Young Sherlock' Series](https://tellyvisions.org/article/young-sherlock-series-casts-colin-firth)** > > Perennial Anglophile heartthrob Colin Firth (The Staircase) has joined the cast of Prime Video's upcoming Young Sherlock series. It’s cast make me _slightly_ more interested. ---
**Author:** ![secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/secretagentfan/32/504_2.png) [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 7:46am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/687 "2024-07-27T07:46:06Z")
The original series had a good ending. The „final“ limited series had a definite ending. Of course, now the dead horse has to be IP-beaten again. Terrible. > **[‘Dexter: Resurrection’ Series Set at Showtime With Michael C. Hall Returning](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/dexter-resurrection-series-showtime-michael-c-hall-1235959604/)** > > Hall will also narrate the inner voice of a young Dexter Morgan, played by Patrick Gibson, in 'Dexter: Original Sin.' ---
**Author:** ![Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/orion/32/1276_2.png) [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 8:47am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/688 "2024-07-27T08:47:35Z")
That poor horse… ---
**Author:** ![MaxZorin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@MaxZorin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MaxZorin)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 12:22pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/689 "2024-07-27T12:22:34Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/VC1_tdnZq1A/maxresdefault.jpg "The Horse Head - The Godfather (1/9) Movie CLIP (1972) HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC1_tdnZq1A) I couldn’t resist. ---
**Author:** ![secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/secretagentfan/32/504_2.png) [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 12:46pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/690 "2024-07-27T12:46:21Z")
These days studio heads cuddle with those heads for comfort. ---
**Author:** ![MaxZorin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@MaxZorin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MaxZorin)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/691 "2024-07-27T14:03:03Z")
I recommend reading The Godfather novel. Jack Woltz is much worse than what we see in the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/dustin/32/7_2.png) [@Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Dustin)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/692 "2024-07-27T20:55:01Z")
The original TIME BANDIDS used to be an odd curio revue, somewhat episodic, quite anarchistic, funny and entertaining and everything Pythons Flying Circus might be had they put their minds to taking a slightly different route. Now the Apple+ series tries going down Nostalgia Avenue - but coming from a different direction. It’s probably too soon to judge this after a mere two episodes. But the general air of goodnatured anarchy, mischief and scurrilous adventure is still evident in the whole thing. There are promising hints of a more drawn out plot and possibly a twist or two old fans of the film won’t expect from the go. > **[Time Bandits review – the gloriously fun return of a fantasy classic](https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/article/2024/jul/24/time-bandits-review-the-gloriously-fun-return-of-a-fantasy-classic?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other)** > > Taika Waititi! Jemaine Clement! Lisa Kudrow being the absolute master of the muttered aside! This remake of the 80s film is a confident, hilarious romp through history ---
**Author:** ![dalton](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/dalton/32/1973_2.png) [@dalton](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/dalton)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/693 "2024-07-27T22:51:45Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/9jR66U3pZHo/maxresdefault.jpg "The Day of the Jackal | Official Trailer | Peacock Original") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jR66U3pZHo) ---
**Author:** ![west](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/7ba0ec/32.png) [@west](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/west)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 11:28pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/694 "2024-07-27T23:28:08Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/P2vCCGri8EY/maxresdefault.jpg "Official Teaser Trailer | Star Trek: Section 31 | StarTrek.com") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2vCCGri8EY) Star Trek Section 31 trailer. This looks appalling. ---
**Author:** ![MrKiddWint](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/mrkiddwint/32/1772_2.png) [@MrKiddWint](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MrKiddWint)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/695 "2024-07-28T01:39:05Z")
Somehow Fred Zinnemann, Edward Fox, and Michael Lonsdale needed updating? I watched the trailer, and then had to go here to wash my eyes out: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/BR_NLCzMt-k/maxresdefault.jpg "Clip From The Classic Day Of The Jackal 1973") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR_NLCzMt-k) ---
**Author:** ![Arbogast777](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/arbogast777/32/822_2.png) [@Arbogast777](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Arbogast777)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/696 "2024-07-28T01:40:36Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/sfJG6IiA_s8/maxresdefault.jpg "The Penguin | Official Trailer | Max") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfJG6IiA_s8) ---
**Author:** ![secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/secretagentfan/32/504_2.png) [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 8:33am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/697 "2024-07-28T08:33:10Z")
This is not Star Trek. This is what people who believe Star Trek is boring think Star Trek should be to attract the young audience. I expect the same Marvel fistfights which stretched the last „Discovery“ season to frustrating lengths to occur frequently, with cynical oneliners and flashy explosions. But again: this is not what Star Trek is about. ---
**Author:** ![dalton](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/dalton/32/1973_2.png) [@dalton](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/dalton)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/698 "2024-07-28T14:06:14Z")
Another day, another new _Star Trek_ series being announced. ---
**Author:** ![west](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/7ba0ec/32.png) [@west](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/west)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/699 "2024-07-28T14:56:02Z")
It is amazing to think that when people talk about the franchise burnout in the 90’s they were talking about four series, TNG, DS9, Voy and Ent, but at any give time from '87 - '05 there were only ever two airing concurrently over 18 years. Since the relaunch of the TV series in '17 we’ve had eight TV projects: Dis, Pic, LD, SNW and Prodigy and coming up Starfleet Academy, a live action comedy series and the Section 31 ‘TV movie’. Looking at the list it’s a bit scary to think that only SNW has grabbed me as the “classic” group of series, TOS-Ent, did. For as much as I enjoyed Picard s3, we had to have two cynical and dull seasons to get to it, and it’s greatest strength was it’s celebration of TNG, something the series at commencement explicitly didn’t want to be, so I’d argue it’s greatest success condemned the mission of the project as a failure. I love Lower Decks, but it’s very much a niche, ‘insider joke’ comedy. They did such a great job with LD that I am interested and excited for the comedic series. I have no desire for a Starfleet Academy set in Discovery’s 31st century or the Section 31 movie. I of course will still watch because of the damn IP and I’m a Trek tragic; but I promise myself I won’t complain if they’re as poor as I fear, and will put my hand up and praise them if I’m wrong which I hope I am - I don’t like being cynical! ---
**Author:** ![raylan.givens](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@raylan.givens](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/raylan.givens)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 3:23pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/700 "2024-07-28T15:23:19Z")
You never, never update Michael Lonsdale… ---
**Author:** ![Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/dustin/32/7_2.png) [@Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Dustin)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 5:37pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771/701 "2024-07-28T17:37:14Z")
> [@west](#): > > It is amazing to think that when people talk about the franchise burnout in the 90’s they were talking about four series, TNG, DS9, Voy and Ent, And, while I haven’t seen all of Enterprise at the time, I’d argue even the weaker episodes of these four rank above most of Discovery and Picard’s first two seasons. It’s baffling that the return of the tv franchise felt worn out and quite _tired_ from the go. If it wasn’t for Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds I doubt most Trekkies would have a lot of faith left in the tv future of Trek. [Previous page](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771.md?page=34) [Next page](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/debating-tv-shows/1771.md?page=36)