News on NO TIME TO DIE (no spoilers)

Well, depends on where they are in the summer.

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Also very good in the UK’s Channel 4’s Humans. And what little I saw of her in Chris Pine’s Jack Ryan movie.

The northern hem’s summer being the southern’s winter.

It’ll also depend on whether they opt for those awful filters that they used in Spectre as well. Here’s hoping that Bond 25 doesn’t look as though it was dumped in a vat of mustard before being released to the cinemas.

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Yes, absolutely! But judging from Fukunaga‘s previous work he does love that look.

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Basically it’s what I said when it happened, MGW and BB felt the script needed a fresh pair of eyes, Boyle had “The Beach” flashbacks. No Bond dying, no casting conflicts.

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We don’t know that. And never forget: people giving interviews are likely to give answers that make them look good.

I actually think Boyle should have stayed silent. He obviously feels that he has to defend himself. Unfortunately he does so by alluding to something he does not describe and by saying he left due to loyalty.

That can’t be the whole truth.

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I’m more inclined to believe it than Boyle/EON left because he/they really wanted to kill Bond and they/he disagreed, depending on what the tabloid felt like writing. Given it took him almost 20 years to repair the professional relationship the last time he chose a film over his colleague, I can see Boyle not wanting to risk it with Hodge, whom he relies upon far more than he ever did McGregor.

Absolutely awful. Pitiful. If it’s true, hopefully if we criticise it enough, Eon will go with something else. Craig needs a good word salad title before he bows out. Eon needs to consider how titles will look listed one after the other on the back of a Blu Ray box set.

Space Bear goes really well after The Force Awakens on my shelf…

And this trailer for “Fall From George” looks interesting…https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DYYtuKyMtY8

Its just the shooting “codename” they give while theyre filming - theres no way they call it eclipse

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I don’t read that way! He certainly makes it clear that his reason for leaving was Eons attempt to foist another writer into Boyle & Hodge’s partnership. But the reason Eon wanted to do that appears to be (from Boyle’s comments) because of the story.

Boyle says that he thought what he and hodge were doing with the story was good. To me that infers that Eon wanted to change the story. Were those changes about the death of Bond? We still don’t know that one way or the other.

Also the fact that he doesn’t want to talk story in case CJF is still going that way again suggests to me that story was an unresolved issue; not script lock, or dialogue, but story: a major story beat, or a major character that’s essential to a particular story.

The editorial agrees:

Boyle confirms here that they did not have a final shooting script at the time of the split, so it would indicate that EON may have also had issues with the direction the script was taking with their ideas and concepts for the film.

While I’m inclined to see it that way too, what’s certain from the mi6 article is that nothing is certain. In fact the article definately thinks that Boyle’s departure was indeed about the story.

As for the working title, I’d say it’s just that and a pretty poor show if it was even considered for anything else.

Surprised people are going bananas over a working title. Calm down- it won’t be Eclipse or Shatterhand!

I’m still hoping for Beyond the Ice

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Quite.

I understood the working title for one of the recent Star Wars films was Red Box (or Red Hat). Calm down folks…

I am still hoping for Shatterhand AND I expect it to still be Shatterhand despite the denials

It’s not Khan, it’s not Khan, it’s not, it’s not, it’s not… it’s KHAN!

What could possibly go wrong?! :woozy_face:

But that was Mi6’s take on Empire’s take. Boyle actual words keep coming back to EON wanting a new writer

I learned quite a lot about myself working with Bond. I work in partnership with writers and I am not prepared to break it up…You have to believe in your process and part of that is the partnership I have with a writer. It’s like saying ‘Hey, we are going to give you a different editor…’ Those fundamental partnerships are vital."

Also, if it was the idea, why would Boyle think it might still turn up?

So we decided to part company, and it would be unfair of me to say what it was because I don’t know what Cary is going to do.

Absolutely - just saying that i agree with them.

Indeed, but why did they wanted one? That’s still unknown.

I doubt it’s Hodges’ dialogue and i doubt he had difficulties with character development, but if he did then that could probably be tweaked without needing a new writer. Makes more sense to me that a producer wants a new writer to rewrite story; to do something the current team won’t or (unlikely) can’t do.

Anyhow, we’re all still hearing what we want to hear and speculating. No definitive reason for rewrites is given.

All it really says is that Eon may have dumped the disputed element of the story. Boyle left and Eon had another writer do a pass at an alternative. Boyle probably doesn’t know how that turned out; did they manage it, or did they revert to his version after failing? He’s just saying he doesn’t know.

Whether that dispute was over the death of Bond we only have tabloids to go by. The death of Bond may never have been part of Boyle’s script. Or, it may have been part of it, but wasn’t the part that was disputed and therefore may still be.

Eclipse… why not?

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