Exactly. And how many of them feature M saying something along the lines of “We are so busy focusing on our enemies we forget to check our own people”.
Can’t argue with that! Still, despite coming after a series of weaker iterations doesn’t stop it being decent premise. Maybe somewhere down the road with bond 7.
I agree on this: we’ve been rogued out.
Time for a bad guy who is not hiding among the good guys.
I would love a Bond film that does not reflect real life…
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The more I think about it , I think we need a bonkers Bond, like YOLT or TSWLM
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I would love a Bond film that does not reflect real life…
The more I think about it , I think we need a bonkers Bond
Be careful what you wish for…
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Imagine Craig getting his Moonraker
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DAD 2 
If after all these shenanigans and time we get a DAD2, I’ll drop into the deepest depression since 2002 
Taste the salt!
Read it. He doesn’t actually say that, says about being there to talk about real heroes rather fictional ones in response to whether he has advice for Fukunaga. Not being bitter or disrespectful, just not talking about it when he’s there to talk about something else.
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Yeah, the examiner is trying to sex it up by leaving the word ‘today’ out of the snipet they used in their headline.
That word makes all the difference to the intention of his statement. Naughty newspapers!
Some would include Elektra (TWINE). Tho’ not a rogue MI6 agent, she’s certainly a snake in the grass.
Absolutely! Especially after those chaps Burgess, Maclean, Philby (absolute rotter!), Blunt, Cairncross and Blake somehow got through the door.
Ethan Hunt has gone rouge in five of the six Mission: Impossible films. Bourne is also a rouge agent. It’s not just a Bond thing. The entire spy genre has really shifted to where they’re just as much about the threats from within as they are about the threats from outside.
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Exactly. Spying is predominantly a trust business, regardless of the initial motive: at the heart of the matter there are always people who spill the beans to other people. And regardless how you think about it, it will influence one’s own look at life and trust.
A spy film that doesn’t pick up on this basic element of corruption in some manner would miss the point of its own genre. It’s always there, from The 39 Steps to Notorious, to Ministry of Fear, to Three Days of the Condor, to The Spy Who Came in from the Cold and Eye of the Needle.
Of course, the emphasis on this element may vary with each film. And some really only need the field of confidence and betrayal as an excuse for shootouts and torture porn, or as a basis for an adventure. But the pure and naked technicality of human espionage always involves the trust in something that’s not trustworthy.
And would we even want a spy film without any kind of mystery or suspense? That would likely come down to endless hours of talking heads in a car and just bore us to death.
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The Mission: Impossible series has a bad track record with rouge agents too; the Phelps’s, Ambrose, Musgrave, Walker and technically the entire Syndicate was made up of rogue agents from one agency or another.
While I feel the trope should be rested it shouldn’t go away for good. What I’ve been thinking is they should take advantage of being able to tell stories across multiple films. Having Bond work alongside a fellow operative for a film or two before they go rogue could give the betrayal a greater impact.
“You don’t trust your own secret service?”
“Of course I don’t! They all spy on people for money”
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FFS why can’t they just give him a story about a spy on a secret mission against a big baddie and not make it personal every single time.
Hear hear. We all want that. And have been advocating it for ages.
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Add North By Northwest (which also features the mistrust angle btw) and you have a list of 20th century’s best thrillers according to a Uni lecture I once had.
I actually would rather have outsiders distrust Bond for being considered so trustworthy by his superiors. After everything that is happening in the world, why would Bond still say: Yes, my life for Queen and Country?
Silva mocked him for that - but Bond only shrugged it off.
Maybe this is where more interesting things can be elaborated on, to… peel back that layer.
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