Can we all agree to use the word pre-title sequence or PTS?
A good movie needs the complete package, and that includes cinematography. It does make a difference.
I wasnât a fan of the yellow tinting during Spectreâs PTS. Itâs a common trope for desert set films and TV shows, which is ridiculous as it doesnât look remotely like that in real life. I remember Breaking Bad doing the same thing during Mexico scenes. Personally, I didnât find the cinematography particularly great in Spectre. I much prefer Roger Deakinsâs work in Skyfall.
It seems to be very much in fashion - you will know what I mean when you see SOLO - A Star Wars Story.
I wasnât planning on seeing Solo.
Sorry, itâs what everyone at work calls them. I shall endeavour to refrain
I agree there. Quantum of Solace admittedly had a weak script, however, the cinematography and editing were just atrocious. Had they been better, the film wouldâve turned out much better. Damn you Marc ForsterâŚ
Even with a good script, it always felt that Marc Forster didnât have the enthusiasm that he should have. He was arguably the only director who wasnât influenced by 007 in his generation. He only accepted the job because he liked Casino Royale. He should have been the last person they should have picked, especially considering what happened.
Iâm seeing it - sounds like itâs going to be a fun ride. Thatâs all Iâm looking for with it as well.
I was particularly put off by his claim that deserts had never been seen in a Bond film.
It was like John Woo not seeing either the Mission Impossible series of the first film, and yet he directed the second.
Donât confuse your personal dislike for the film with facts. Forster definitely was influenced and quoted TSWLM and GF. And no director goes to work with no enthusiasm, especially not on such a huge undertaking as a Bond film. Without enthusiasm one would not even survive the first day.
Agreed, he was definitely interested. He was just a poor fit, especially for that particular film. Itâs like TWINE with Michael Apted. Apted is a great director, but he wasnât right for Bond.
I donât personally dislike the film. But I read a quote of him saying he had never seen a Bond film with a desert in it.
I thought QoS was hampered more by the fact that like TND, they had to go to work without a locked down script. Hence why I believe, Forster admitted to thinking his scripted introductions to both Camille and Greene were weak.
I think under the circumstances, both Spottisewood and Forster did sterling jobs. And under different circumstances, I believe both directors were good for Bond of their time.
Forsterâs directing issues are not strictly script related. The over-abundance of shaky cam, the terrible title song and graphics from MK12, the awful intercuts between the chase with Bond and Mitchell and the parade or whatever that is in Siena. The incredibly short run time also hurts the film as it doesnât allow for enough story development. When it first released, I really liked Quantum of Solace. However, I think that was just the thrill of a new Bond movie released. I was really high on Spectre the first time I saw it too. But with subsequent viewings and especially watching them after Casino Royale and Skyfall, their issues become much more glaring.
It was Forsterâs idea to have chases on land, sea and air, which made them feel repetitive, IMHO.
It was also his idea to include references to the previous 21 films, which felt horribly forced.
Do you want to start a QOS thread to air your grievances? Opinions on a 10 year old film definitely arnât news.
Yes, this thread has gotten off topic. I guess my whole point is Iâm sick of directors trying to make the Bond films too artsy. Forster and Mendes are both guilty of it. My hope is that Danny Boyle will buck this trend.
Very much agreed. I thought Forster did a great job with QoS. Pretty much anything that followed up CR was going to be viewed negatively because it wasnât CR, but on the whole I thought he turned in one of the better Bond films. Iâd be more than happy to see him return to the franchise over any of the post-Glen directors weâve had.