Thank you! I had not pieced that together, but you’re absolutely right. I figured he switched allegiances but forgot this scene. It’s just before Blofeld dies too, so Primo saw the writing on the wall.
I also like how Bond strangles Primo with a chord both times in the film, but the second time he knows to use the EMP watch after learning he has a bionic eye.
Yes, I think it does show Logan Ashe recruiting Primo, but like much of NTTD it simply isn’t clear an obvious enough to make the connection. When Madeleine is being held in the prison room on Poison Island and Primo tries to make her drink water - which is actually some kind of organic plant acid - she taunts him with a line about working for the man who murdered your boss, or something, I can’t recall it exactly, it passed so fast - like the Logan Ash scene that if you miss it, you miss it. Personally, I think he’s a crap henchman. No one is scared of him, his eye keeps popping out and his machine guns don’t kill anyone. Even Ms Swann escapes his clutches with ease. He’s crap. Period.
I really had to giggle on first viewing (something that goes a bit lost among English speaking audiences), when I realized that the person he was talking to on the phone in Swiss-German was his mom, and he told her that the weather was awfully hot.
Didn’t we just have a discussion about the private lives of henchmen?
Indeed. The inversion of key plot beats while retaining their intended spirit proves there was a careful and considered approach rooted in the mythology, rather than pure shock factor. I believe most viewers enjoy and understand the intention behind Craig’s last film, but naturally not all do.
Craig’s series was a reboot, but some never accepted that fact and tried all sorts of mental gymnastics to try and make things fit. NTTD’s ending forces the issue, thus they now say “how can the story continue from here?”, along with other comments that have zero basis in reality.
I’ve seen some say ‘NTTD confirms the code name theory by giving the 007 title to another’. Which is blatantly false. 00 numbers are assigned to agents upon their promotion, usually when another has been killed in action. James Bond remains James Bond.
Craig’s incarnation evolved to a point where he would cease to be James Bond as we know him if he left the island, so fate intervened. He is an assassin and that’s what he remains.
Can anyone seriously see Bond as a father? When that’s the conversation it’s either him or the family biting the dust, and it’s not going to be the family.
It’s where I disagree with Nolan’s ending for TDK Rises - I don’t think Batman is something Bruce can ever let go of. I’d prefer he die in that nuclear blast, rather than the final thought of him being on holiday with Selina in perpetuity. Happiness is short term for these types of dark heroes.
I see two outcomes for them: they have this obsessive mentality forever, even into old age, or they die in combat. NTTD went with option two by dangling a carrot Bond would never enjoy, thus preserving the idea of Bond. That timeline is over and they’re not revisiting it.
It’s a No Time To Die thread so I won’t hold too long on The Dark Knight Rises, but that’s exactly where Bruce is at the beginning of the film. The Dark Knight Trilogy looks at Batman through the lens of the stages of grief;
Batman, as a character, is Bruce stuck at bargaining. TDKR begins with Bruce having moved to depression and yearning for his bargaining days.
Piers Morgan also couldn’t get over not being Meghan Markle’s dream lover. And he milked this indignation to the point of stalking the woman and her husband on ITV’s bill for years. He’ll likely build himself his own tv station simply with his views on Bond…