With many thanks for sparing me loads of time and effort.
To a T. Consider this my own review.
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Since they definitely would have made that a point in the story, I took that as an assumption hotel managers often make, just being polite. It also adds a cruel irony since Bond at that moment suspects her to have sent him to his death.
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Now that’s a review!
Haha - happy to be of assistance!
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Quite. I had less of a question about this than the 22/3 year old Vesper of Casino Royale.
But the question I did have about his pre credits death surrounded the wonderment as to, just as Oberhauser became Blofeld, whether so too would Safin be a villain of multiple names, and finish up as Dr No. As undoubtedly as Safin being shot in the heart, and surviving was a throw-back to Dr No book source material of his heart being on the right side of the body, Dextrocardia with Situs Inversus, I did wonder why his surviving was not explained.
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Apologies if already mentioned, or indeed already known and not needed to be spelled out to such a refined audience as this, I would submit the book You Only Live Twice that saw Bond with a child, David, as named after the Niven, before he popped off to Vladivostok.
Yes, I thought it was a shame that they didn’t spell this out overtly. It’s a nice bit of unused Fleming.
I also thought it may not been immediately clear that Safin was trying to save young Madeleine by shooting into the ice. Those bullets did fly a lot closer to her body than you might have expected in a rescue attempt.
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At the conclusion of Fleming’s YOLT, Bond is unaware of Kissy’s pregnancy or even who he really is. He’s led to believe he’s a simple fisherman. Bond had not reached a state of contented fatherhood or retirement organically, it was forced upon him because Kissy wanted Bond for herself.
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Very good points, all.
Yes, quite.
I knew the sh*t was going to hit the fan when they kept mentioning “we have all the time in the world” 
NTTD isn’t a bad movie, I just don’t find it a great bond film. Great theme song but the music sequence I found it to be unusually boring & bland… Did I see a small Dr.No reference there with the dots?
Hans Zimmer’s score isn’t memorable at all. Good action sequences, too bad they spoiled too much of them in the trailers. I liked the story , but I really hated the ending.
I read somewhere that the famous "James bond will return. " appears after the credits.
If you go as far as killing of the main character, I’d prefer they’d do at the end of the series… Cause what are you going to do now when it all ends? Kill him again?
I’ve been a Bond fan all my life, even had my wedding date inspired by it. We’ve had 25 films. If this was to be the last, I’d be perfectly happy with the ending we got. But knowing that it’s not, I feel they should’ve gone with a different end…
Anyone know if they made reference to Connery & Moore after the credits?
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No reference to Connery or Moore. Not really appropriate, was it?
No reference to either. I didn’t really expect it but it would have been a nice gesture.
I think it might have sent confused signals to add a tribute. Following a fictional (and obviously transitory) death with a reminder of two real ones could potentially trivialize all three.
From my own POV, it wouldve seemed out of place, anyway, as I can’t connect NuBond with Classic Bond. It would be like putting “RIP Leonard Nimoy” on a Star Wars movie.
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In short: I didn’t hate it, but I didn’t like it either. I got a vibe of MI: Fallout while watching. To be blunt I think NTTD does a slight disservice to Daniel Craig’s era. Say what you want about Spectre but that’s when Daniel should have called it. Then have the next actor pick up from there. NTTD feels unnessacary and a bit unwanted. We didn’t need any more made up ends tied up because there weren’t supposed to be any to begin with.
Nomi was arrogant and insufferable. I’m praying we’ve seen the last of her. Because if she carries on the franchise from here, it’s going to bomb. Nomi will turn people right off. Nothing against Lashana Lynch as a performer but the character is bad…and I’m being as nice as I can.
Anna de Armas should have gotten alot more screen time, Christoph Waltz and Geoffrey Wright was wasted potential.
Look, to call this film ‘polarizing’ would be too light a term. It wasn’t bad…but it wasn’t all that good either. The way this was written is if William Boyd and Anthony Horrowitz got in a room together and made a personal bet on how to write the worst script between the two while Mission Impossible Fallout was playing in the background…yeah, I went there.
In closing, I’m just going to say it: It’s over. This isn’t the ending that Daniel Craig’s Bond deserved…it’s the one that was forced upon him by bad studio involvment and Phobe Waller-Bridge’s ego. If you’ve been paying attention to the industry as a whole, you know what’s coming.
It’s not revolting, but it’s not good. It’ll be very surprising if it makes back their $900 million. Especially when I don’t think it deserves to.
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I suspect that since the film was locked in February 2020 they did not go back now to cut in a card about Connery´s passing (which happened many months afterwards). And Moore´s passing happened in 2017 - so it was probably more about the timing of NTTD. Putting in a card “In Memory of Sean Connery and Roger Moore” could also have been criticized as “what, only one meager dedication for both of those giants?”
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Thanks 
Just was curious if they did or didn’t.
The strange thing about NTTD is that lots of images keep coming back to my mind, even days after watching it. (This usually only happens to me with “serious” movies.)
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the way Bond lashes out at Tanner because he knows how to question someone (the way Craig unleashes that anger which also adds a comical note)
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the moment Bond realizes the contaminated blood on his face, with Craig just moving that one side of his mouth, indicating that everything he was hoping for is gone forever, which is the only thing on his mind now, so he not even looks at Safin when he shoots him
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and the look in Craig’s eyes when he watches the rockets fly towards him, a man who has made peace with everything, despite his sadness, just because he knows that he has saved the people he loves
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After rewatching SPECTRE it strikes me that even NO TIME TO DIE can’t leave the retrofitting entirely behind. In SPECTRE Madeleine told Bond that, after the divorce of her parents, she had cut ties with her father. NO TIME TO DIE now shows it wasn’t exactly a divorce…
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The mum being murdered after the divorce isn’t out of the question in Spectre…and the mother clearly isn’t exactly fond Mr White in NTTD - also, given the places they shared had secret rooms, odds are Mrs. White was also Spectre
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That’s what I thought too - until I saw pics of Madeleine and White in SPECTRE. At that point the divorce was clearly meant to be some time later, maybe when Madeleine was supposed to be about 16 or thereabouts.
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