How does he take off his tie so quickly during the fight? Is it a clip on ?
That is something I wondered myself at the time! I can’t see bond with a clip on tie,too much like the police, prison officers or a McDonald’s worker!
But if it was a clip-on tie, he would not bother getting rid of it, would he ?
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It was a deleted scene.
There is one moment of Craig anger that sees him ripping it off. It was but a split second so no idea why it was removed. The scene, not the tie.
YouTube will provide.
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And no matter how depressed Bond may or may not be… A clip on tie is a bridge too far 
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I’ll have to watch, that’s CraigBond in a nutshell, wonder why it was removed.
I’ve had a quick look but it is not obviously surfacing.
And no, he clearly brought both hands to his tie to yank one end out of a knot. The action was sort of reminiscent of Bond slamming his hand against the lift shaft when he dropped chappie Patrice in Skyfall.
You can see it being filmed here at the 48sec mark…
If you look closely in the movie you can see him start to do it right as the camera pans away from him and back to Primo. I don’t think it was a cut scene as much as they just went with an alternate shot.
Here’s the moment in the final film that his hand grabs the tie right as the camera pans away…
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Sorry, yes. Absolutely better terminology.
Thanks for finding it sir.
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Thank you.
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Since this is the nit-picking thread, I will put something forward that bothers me.
At the start of the movie, Bond has been in Jamaica, living by the sea, and going into town, as a good-looking 46-51 year old. I myself am in this age bracket, as is my wife and most of our friends. Some are married like us, some are divorced, some divorced for the 2nd time. It’s clear to us from attending parties, the pub, and gigs, that this group of people is the horniest group around.
They are single again, they are looking for love, or sex, and they are not afraid to say it (and that’s just the women!) because we grew up when the dating scene was purely about walking up to people in bars and talking to them.
So, why is James Bond, a notorious horny devil, not the same as them? How come he isn’t like my mate Paul who is 51 and has had sex with 6 women in the last 5 years? And isn’t half as good looking as Daniel Craig / James Bond.
Why hasn’t Bond moved on? Or at least enjoyed himself like any 51 year old would do in Jamaica?
And why do Blofeld and Safin know he hasn’t moved on and even married someone? Have they watched his every move in Jamaica for 5 years while M thought he was dead??
This is the bit that annoys me. When Blofeld goads him about making his life empty, I was hoping Bond was going to reply…“Mate. I’ve been living in Jamaica for 5 years, catching fresh fish, going to this fantastic, noisy bar, having sometimes excellent casual sex with the locals, beach parties, drugs, music…the lot! While you’ve been sitting here!!! I’ve even gotten married recently and this really is the BIG ONE, never mind Vesper or Madeleine…”
Why not say that even if it wasn’t true? Surely it would wipe that grin of Blofeld’s face?
Anyway, that was my little nitpicking comment, but it really does bug me. People say that they’ve made Bond more human, but based on even a small sample of my wife’s friends that she goes drinking with, he is nothing like a normal 51 year old single guy. Nothing at all.
Feel free to debate 
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Because he’s not in that headspace. A depression doesn’t usually bring about an upbeat personality. And I like that for Craig’s Bond, because it makes his decision to delay gratification and embrace the relationship towards the end of the film stronger and also more tragic.
It would be like if Bond and Tracy had a falling out after they drove away in OHMSS, but she didn’t die. The emotional connection is too strong to move on, knowing she’s still out there. Their time together was on the brief side, but there’s a huge what if that distinguishes itself from casual flings.
The Jack London quote puts the Jamaica content into perspective, I think. A man’s purpose is to live, not exist. Bond may have been fishing and driving around as a free man, but that life was hollow. Living the remainder of his life in quarantine, on the slim to none chance he could escape the island if he wanted, would have been the same hollow existence - but incomparably harder. Unlike his time on Jamaica, he now knew Madeleine didn’t betray him, had a daughter and wanted to be together.
The what if that plagued his mind became a loud yes - but he still couldn’t touch it.
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It’s a good question - that I think Bond’s personality explains. In the books he’s been cynic and at times given to depression even at the top of his ‘constantly mid-30s’ years. He’s pretty much had that life of the best-agers you witnessed and describe. And perhaps it occurred to him it left him empty in the past and isn’t likely to improve in middle age?
Or maybe he does all that - or most of it - and we just don’t get to see it in NO TIME TO DIE. Or he has simply decided it’s not worth the effort for the flimsy casual sex. In the film it doesn’t look like he’s entirely gone ascetic - but also not like he’s turned into a party animal or, worse, the sugar daddy type who’s whiling away the days with ever younger women.
I’d say Bond has matured. There are more important things than chasing after women he know will not share more than a brief moment in his life. And perhaps he’s also just not interested in the compromises that would come with a serious commitment. So he’s keeping to himself and it seems to suit him.
He didn’t pull a Hemingway, hit the bottle and let himself go. Neither does he binge Netflix or smear the walls of the internet with all caps expletives. As a pensioner he’s doing pretty well.
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Good answer… 
The way he went with Nomi to his place and looked at her taking her wig off I did not doubt for a second that he had many encounters in these years.
He just did not allow himself to fall in love again. Otherwise it would make him really stupid.
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I was always under the impression that the life expectancy of a 00 was limited, due to the nature of the job,that is why they opted for recruiting orphans and people with no next of kin.
Every day could be Bonds last,so he lived it to the full. Traveling in first class, eating posh food, wearing expensive clothes and bedding anything in sight.
His retirement ended all that…
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“Orphans always make the best recruits”
M, intentionally quoting Maxwell Knight - Wikipedia, it was (cynically) done for the reason Dench’s M favoured it, the aim of attaching desire for family to a love of country.
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Yes, is it in the goldginger novel that M scolds bond for not donating his winnings to the white cross fund for families of agents killed in action?
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He tells himself Madeleine is irrelevant but he never really moved on emotionally. In the Fleming canon, the Vespers and Tracys are meant to die. When they don’t we see the opposite happens. The equilibrium of the universe has to be sated somehow.
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The way the house is set up, the emotionless, bachelor lifestyle is implied, no need for it to be explicitly stated.
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