# On her Majesty Secret Service was a reboot?

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**Category:** Films
**Created:** [July 22, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708 "2020-07-22T14:32:33Z")
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### Author: ![bondfisher47](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/74df32/32.png) [@bondfisher47](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/bondfisher47)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/1 "2020-07-22T14:32:33Z")

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Do you agree it was a reboot? Diamonds are forever took place right after You only live twice so that would explain why Bond and Blofeld didn’t recognize each other because it was a reboot just like Casino Royale. We could also argue that For your eyes only takes place right after On her majesty secret service because those 2 films were independent from the other bond films until the reboot of Casino Royale.

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### Author: ![dalton](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/dalton/32/1973_2.png) [@dalton](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/dalton)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/2 "2020-07-22T14:38:20Z")

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It wasn’t a reboot. All of the Bond films are essentially independent from the others, not just _On Her Majesty’s Secret Service_ and _For Your Eyes Only_.

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### Author: ![Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/dustin/32/7_2.png) [@Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Dustin)
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What would a reboot actually do? What is its raison d’être; what does it achieve?

I think the sole reason of a reboot is to declare: this is a new story. Nothing we will see is related to anything we’ve seen before.

Looking at ON HER MAJESTY’S SECRET SERVICE there are plenty of references to what we’ve seen before, visual references as well as actual dialogue. Everything about this film demands this is the Bond we’ve observed for years now.

So by that measure I think, no, can’t really see ON HER MAJESTY’S as a reboot any more than any other film before it.

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### Author: ![theSpectre](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/thespectre/32/567_2.png) [@theSpectre](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/theSpectre)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2020, 10:09pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/4 "2020-07-22T22:09:04Z")

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OHMSS is not a reboot. Several, if not, all of the previous films are directly referenced in the film.

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### Author: ![sharpshooter](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/sharpshooter/32/503_2.png) [@sharpshooter](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/sharpshooter)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/5 "2020-07-22T23:21:20Z")

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Keeping DN, FRWL, GF and TB but ignoring YOLT is my timeline for the film.

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### Author: ![billy007](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@billy007](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/billy007)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2020, 12:21am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/6 "2020-07-23T00:21:17Z")

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Agreed. I don’t have my 40 yr. old copy available but John Brosnan’s James Bond in Cinema specifically uses George’s cleaning out 007 desk with mementos from Dr. No, FRWL, and Thunderball as an example. Paraphasing “Yes it a different face, but he’s still 007.”

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### Author: ![sharpshooter](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/sharpshooter/32/503_2.png) [@sharpshooter](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/sharpshooter)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2020, 10:26am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/7 "2020-07-23T10:26:33Z")

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Footage from YOLT is shown in the title sequence, although I choose to view that as the filmic past being rewound, rather than commenting on continuity. Lazenby was the new beginning.

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### Author: ![Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/orion/32/1276_2.png) [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2020, 10:35am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/8 "2020-07-23T10:35:15Z")

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Both characters had plastic surgery - Bond to aid Operation Bedlam, Blofeld to aid the noble progeny thing.

DAF is then a prequel to early days operation Bedlam…

…or 3 different directors had 3 different stories they wanted to tell

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### Author: ![Stbernard](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@Stbernard](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Stbernard)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2020, 11:28am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/9 "2020-07-23T11:28:25Z")

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Bloody reboots… Each movie is a remake/reboot/reanything of the last, Spectre arguably is the 23rd remake of Doctor No.

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### Author: ![Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/dustin/32/7_2.png) [@Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Dustin)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2020, 12:17pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/10 "2020-07-23T12:17:02Z")

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Remakes are not a bad thing, Shakespeare is practically living solely on them.

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### Author: ![Stbernard](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@Stbernard](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Stbernard)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/11 "2020-07-23T13:00:02Z")

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Exactly !

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### Author: ![Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/orion/32/1276_2.png) [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2020, 1:02pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/12 "2020-07-23T13:02:57Z")

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> [@Dustin](#):
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> Shakespeare is practically living solely on them.

The dude is such a hack!

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### Author: ![MrHinx](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/mrhinx/32/579_2.png) [@MrHinx](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MrHinx)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2020, 2:03pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/13 "2020-07-23T14:03:32Z")

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Other than the current era, I just take each flick on its own merits and disregard everything before and after: that works fine for me as long as the villain is evil, the girls are glamorous and the stunts are outrageous.

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### Author: ![Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/orion/32/1276_2.png) [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2020, 2:04pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/14 "2020-07-23T14:04:02Z")

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Bond in a nutshell

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### Author: ![stromberg](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/stromberg/32/534_2.png) [@stromberg](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/stromberg)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/15 "2020-07-23T15:28:57Z")

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He’s still alive?

😝

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### Author: ![Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/orion/32/1276_2.png) [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/16 "2020-07-23T15:48:11Z")

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I met him for drinks last Friday!

Oh…wait a sec…s\*\*\*

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### Author: ![Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/dustin/32/7_2.png) [@Dustin](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Dustin)
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In a way…

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### Author: ![MrKiddWint](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/mrkiddwint/32/1772_2.png) [@MrKiddWint](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MrKiddWint)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/18 "2020-07-23T16:24:14Z")

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I think there Bond movies are a combination of reboot, continuation, and response to the cultural moment. It has been the successful manipulation of these elements that has allowed to franchise to succeed for so long.

For example, one could say that Moore Bond was both rebooted and continued from TMWTGG to TSWLM, with the additional rebooting of the concept of the Bond girl (which was also a response to a cultural moment).

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### Author: ![Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/user_avatar/quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/orion/32/1276_2.png) [@Orion](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Orion)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/19 "2020-07-23T16:29:10Z")

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And also acknowledged Lazenby’s Bond as canonical in a very painful drop of the clown mask

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### Author: ![bondfisher47](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/74df32/32.png) [@bondfisher47](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/bondfisher47)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/on-her-majesty-secret-service-was-a-reboot/1708/20 "2020-07-23T22:03:29Z")

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This is the best theory that I would never though of and I would like to think of it like this because it makes the most sense why bond and blofeld didn’t recognize each other and also why bond was acting like Tracy death didn’t happen in diamonds are forever.

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