Renewed appreciation for Spectre

To me the central scene - the core of SPECTRE, if you will - is the bridge: Bond deciding* not to kill although his job and his own desire would urge him to. This is meant to be massively poignant on various levels. Bond battles Blofeld for over half a century (and this Bond, although it’s only two hours since he’s seen him as an adult again, has also supposedly been haunted by this Blofeld for decades**).

In the reading of the deprogramming this should have been the last few frames.

And then SPECTRE decides to have another ending tacked to the ending, and that one entirely subverts the decision Bond made by yet again picking up a totem of his calling. THE totem of his calling, given Bond and the Aston cannot apparently exist without one another.

It’s like showing Bond changing track on the bridge and shooting Blofeld after all. This is not rejection of his calling, awakening from his programming. It’s pushing the reset button before the next Bond can do it - only now he’s also brought Madeline on the wagon.

*The alternate reading would be that Bond couldn’t shoot Blofeld. For a moment Craig‘s face seems to register surprise at not being able to do this. But I admit this may be a long shot.

** Which also explains how the family angle might have looked like a great idea to make the whole Blofeld character more important to Bond than Craig‘s run would have allowed.

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First, many thanks for the great responses. They are all much appreciated.

Broke out the 4K disc to check the scene, and it appears to me like a decision not to shoot, and not an inability to do so. The small movements around Bond’s mouth are what I am looking at, and the expression seems like the making and accepting of a decision, more than a realization of an inability.

Bond is haunted by many things, and this dysfunctional relationship of his youth is one of them. This relationship (on a narrative level) is the author of Bond’s pain, as he replicates the dysfunction when forming/trying to form new intimate relationships. It is the only model he has, and Dench-M takes advantage of this (why orphans are best). On the plot level, this aspect of narrative is mirrored by Blofeld-as-villain authoring problems/dangers for Bond-as-hero.

But the totem undergoes a transformation/rebuilding. In SF, the car is demolished during the final assault. All that is brought back to Q is one piece–a hollow shell-akin to RobotBond, who is a human shell programmed to follow orders and kill–bereft of any autonomous inner life.

The movie is rife with callbacks–Bond movie past haunts the film, as character past haunts CraigBond. And two Bond totems (callbacks on steroids)–the DB5 and the vodka martini, shaken not stirred–undergo transformations. The DB5 is rebuilt, and the vodka martini, shaken not stirred becomes a vodka martini, dirty. Bond follows Madeleine in this choice of drink, and does so happily. A small instance of Bond coming to life, and shaking off a burdening/accumulated past (both franchise-wise and plot-wise) that has been dictating his actions. On the train he gets a new cocktail, and at the end of the film, he gets a new DB5.

But the Aston that Bond drives away is not the Aston of past films–that one was gutted in the conflagration at Skyfall. This car has been rebuilt by Q (analogous to the totemic martini being remade by Madeleine). The two current iterations of these totems seem much like their predecessors, but they are changed.

When Bond comes to reclaim his car/totem, does he look/act like a man who has stopped by to pick up his trauma? In his final shot, the look on Bond’s face is one of supreme confidence–a man no longer hollow, but possessed of an inner knowledge/certainty that has replaced his previous programming. Cut to the DB5 driving away, and the Bond Theme swelling, and I see a moment of triumph.

I take your reading Dustin: Bond’s need to claim as a last act the totemic DB5 indicates that he will always be tethered to his past and its traumas. He cannot/will not give them up.

For me though, the mise en scene and Craig’s performance do not support this reading (though it is made more plausible by a) the decision to make NTTD; and b) that film’s choice to resurrect Bond’s traumas to give its plot a starting point).

With all proper and due deference to Jim, I propose a SPECTRE Sideswipe:

  • The restored DB5 has trauma in its boot

  • The restored DB5 is factory-fresh and Q-cleansed

Voting closes when Bond 26 is released.

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This discussion actually opened up my perception of SPECTRE, giving me new possibilities to read the film.

It seems to me, however, that the film only works on that meta-level: the deprogramming of Bond.

Which stands in stark contrast with its predecessor which was about the reprogramming of Bond.

Combining this with CR (the programming of Bond), QOS (the test-run of the programmed Bond - does he really work or are there adjustments to be made) and then NTTD (the inability to program Bond leading to a complete self-(de)termination), the whole CraigEra jumps from one point to the next, disregarding those times in which Bond or Mi6 would actually run the program without a hitch.

It’s an era which only makes points about its main character, without giving its main function time. Maybe that was a decision based on the idea that all the previous films had already preferenced „the mission is the most important element“.

As for SPECTRE, the reading concentrating on Bond‘s inner workings seems to be the most valuable because focussing on the narrative must lay open the enormous difficulties of its production. SPECTRE is more than any other Bond film concerned with sequences, always abandoning ideas of one for the next sequence. It might again be on a very superficial level about Bond vs the bad guy, but the bad guy’s plan seems to be of lesser importance (if any) for the whole story. It’s as if everything changes in front of Bond‘s eyes, again and again. That’s why Bond seems to wander around aimlessly, getting pushed through many scenarios, bemusedly reacting to them. Life is but a dream this time, and the dreamer does not awake, maybe not even at the end.

SPECTRE is Bond‘s nightmare, something which already began with SKYFALL picking up on YOLT‘s beginning (being shot and declared dead in order to live again) continuing now through a fever dreamish, outlandish story (like YOLT’s and featuring a volcano-like lair). But this time the film firmly stays in nightmare territory. Maybe Blofeld succeeded destroying Bond‘s mind after all, and everything we see is just a retrograde fantasy, Bond piecing together things as he wants to see them unfold, but unable to string them together flawlessly. He himself might have become the author of his painful life, culminating in NTTD in a heroic way which might never have come to pass, while it really ended in that SPECTRE chair.

So is this extreme meta-level, highly unusual for Bond films in previous eras, the actual intention of the CraigEra? Surely not. After CR the series went through so many production disasters which needed to be covered up that the result had no chance but looking jumbled, disconnected, retconned and lost. But to read these films, and SPECTRE especially, as something it might also be, is actually more fun to me than realizing what it could not be.

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Driving to the future but ultimately repeating the past.

Bond tried leaving the service for real in Casino Royale and it didn’t last long. At the end of QoS I think he largely has peace with Vesper. But that doesn’t mean you suddenly stop thinking about someone and they don’t mean anything.

At the conclusion of SPECTRE Bond is again attempting to leave the service, and he does so for a longer period of time. When Bond drives off in the DB5 it’s an important part of the story arc. He’s trying to do the Vesper thing right this time. He gets very close, but the job again imposes itself so he can’t have peace.

In NTTD he doesn’t die as a partner or a father, but as 007. That’s all he ever got to be, the other two things were always out of reach. But at the end of SPECTRE he’s in a nice purgatory bubble, frozen in time with happiness seemingly possible.

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That is the strongest level. It pulls me along every time, and once on the ride, I have the space/leisure to appreciate the deployment of the film’s formal elements.

Agreed. There always has to be a mission, but the CraigBond films are about Bond’s inner life and the mission.

It is there because it needs to be. World domination; auctioning off nuclear supremacy; cornering the gold market; decimating and then repopulating the Earth, and ruling from space; recovering the solex agitator; melding with government intelligence systems to improve criminal operations and lower overhead. All great and serviceable plans, which will fail since this is a James Bond movie.

For me, it is always best to stay away from wondering about intention, thereby avoiding courting the intentional fallacy. The films were the products of their times and the talents brought together in that moment. I think knowing about any production disasters/missteps/false starts/abandoned concepts actually impedes an appreciation of the final artistic product. A viewer is comparing the finished product to its production history, and seeing where the two align, and where they diverge–mistakenly experiencing the film through its production history, rather than through their own artistic aesthetic.

I do not find SPECTRE jumbled, but then I do not find IN A LONELY PLACE jumbled, and it too suffered from production disasters. It is nice to know how Jackson Pollock arrived at the process he used to paint “Blue Poles,” but standing before it, it is best to forget all that one knows, be awed, and weep.

Exactly. Read the films, and give yourself permission to ignore the footnotes.

Which would have been permanent had EON decided not make another movie with Craig, and he gone along with the plan.

Originally, it was the end of the arc (which was constructed on the fly in the first place), but NTTD transformed it retrospectively. For anyone who died before NTTD came out, SPECTRE was the finale.

I see it as a nice bubble, minus the purgatory shading. In my aesthetic, ConneryBond is still on that ocean liner with Tiffany; MooreBond is still in space with Holly; and CraigBond is still driving around with Madeleine (though aghast at petrol prices). Their actors made more Bond films, but these Bonds (definitive for me) went in different directions.

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No different to viewers who died before seeing A View to a Kill or Die Another Day. Craig says he had NTTD’s conclusion in mind since CR, and given his physique I’m not brave enough to call him a liar.

I think the term fits. Purgatory is a soul becoming fit for heaven, in a temporary place or state. The suffering component comes after when he’s alone in Jamaica, clearly having wanted a relationship and feeling burned by a perceived betrayal.

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Absolutely possible - but was there ever going to be a chance they would really go down that road before Craig’s return? Seems doubtful to me. SPECTRE’s finale had an air of ‘this is it’. This was even before the box office numbers rolled in, the promo campaign, slashing comments aside, felt like a chapter being closed. Plus, the last few frames were ambiguous enough to give the next guy a nice start and nobody would have bat an eyelid.

That said, I‘m fine with NO TIME TO DIE giving Craig‘s Bond a different ending. It’s almost as flawed as SPECTRE, but owing its own shortcomings and making the most of them. And as a companion piece to SPECTRE it actually helps the earlier film - a bit. After a fashion.

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There was one draft ending on Bond saying „We have all the time in the world.“
Which would have been totally undeserved for that relationship at the end of the film.
Then again, with not too much cuddling time in between it was also unearned in NTTD…

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Perhaps that’s the real problem at the core of Craig‘s run, his relationships seem unconvincing to merit their supposed impact on him. Quitting for Vesper seemed already borderline, but I admit it’s plausible in CASINO ROYALE. Nursing a dented ego all through QUANTUM OF SOLACE was a bit of a stretch. Holing up like a teenager in his room because his bitching Mom didn’t trust him with the family ride was another such example SKYFALL gave. And Madeleine declaring love for Bond and basing her future on his love in return without them having spent a single Saturday at IKEA together is entirely unconvincing.

Inside the Craig-verse it’s meant to work and show depth and human emotion. But solely on the evidence presented in the respective films it all feels a bit flimsy and shallow,

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Exactly!

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Madeleine declaring love for Bond and basing her future on his love in return without them having spent a single Saturday at IKEA together is entirely unconvincing.

I laughed my ass off at this sentence. Thank you, this already made my day! Haha! :smile:

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Maybe a montage to Louis Armstrong a la OHMSS strolling through the bedding section and then getting home to struggle assembling their new Klapfarttt shelving system would have given the depth needed to this new relationship?

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Experience dictates this is more likely to lead to hate.

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And that’s why it’s one of the last remaining initiation rites of modern civilisation: If a 00 doesn’t run berserk over a Billy‘s missing nails and warped back panel it’s because they are marriage material. :man_shrugging:t3:

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And knowing Bond, he would cheat by calling Q to assemble it for him.

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And of course exactly on the evening that Q finally had a date again after months and also had to feed his cats!

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Well he better build the playset and use that alan key fast then, for the sake of the cats.

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You are right. RobotBond may have come alive, but there is a good deal of purging left to be done. Thanks for the correction.

Where do you think that they are heading for in that last shot? It screams “Destination Ikea.”

The Craig-verse’s attempts to show depth and human emotion were rendered flimsy and shallow through an inconsistent application of depth. Some areas/aspects of the Bond tool kit were deepened, while others were imported into the Craig-verse without alteration. As a result, the Craig-verse films display tonal fluctuations. Case in point: Severine in SKYFALL. Bond seems to show an appreciation for her and her situation/history (new, deep Bond behavior) when he meets her, but in the next scene, he goes after her sexually (old, shallow Bond behavior).

SPECTRE, by adding a Moore-verse vibe, taps the brakes on the depth project. To expand on what @dalton noted: plot-wise, nothing is particularly leaned into. The plot is a transparent membrane–a skein of events–through which a viewer sees the meta-narrative @secretagentfan pointed to. The set-pieces are as phantasmagoric as ever, but no longer paired with Bergman/Cassavetes-lite sequences.

This design results in what @secretagentfan noted: “the film only works on that meta-level: the deprogramming of Bond.” If a view cannot plug into the meta-level, and enjoy all the ghosts–plot-wise and franchise-wise–thrown at them, then they are in for a rough/disappointing/grueling experience.

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I’m the same age as Craig, and I learned a long time ago it’s best to hire IKEA to do it rather than scream at the instructions - “This makes no sense!” If I were Bond, you bet I would get Q to do it. In fact, I would agree to cat-sit in exchange.

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Maybe it’s best that he didn’t direct CR. I think he also likes SP more because some of the same actors (particularly Waltz), have worked for him.

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