# Tally ho, reference hunters
**URL:** https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091
**Category:** No Time To Die (Spoilers)
**Created:** [October 2, 2021, 12:36pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091 "2021-10-02T12:36:24Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 5
### Author:  [@cgebby](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/cgebby)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/81 "2021-10-19T16:47:46Z")
Bond informing M of Felix Leiter’s demise reminds me of Lazenby asking M for the assault on Piz Gloria, even more so than M telling Dalton’s Bond “This is not a country club, 007!” when similarly informed of Leiter’s less fatal sacrifice in LTK.
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### Author:  [@Pussfeller](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/Pussfeller)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/82 "2021-10-19T21:43:04Z")
Whether as a reference or a rehashed trope, Valdo feels a lot like Boris: a shrimpy and politically incorrect (to say the least) Russian nebbish whose technical expertise is key to a murderous plot, but who is mostly played for laughs.
Nomi removing her wig by a bed shortly after meeting Bond is a reference to Rosie Carver removing her wig by a bed shortly after meeting Bond.
The stuffed rabbit which is _dropped_ on the ground is clearly a reference to Bond’s history of promiscuity, an element which has been _dropped_ in this movie to make room for more GRIM DEATH.
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### Author:  [@MkB](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MkB)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/83 "2021-10-20T01:19:06Z")
> [@Pussfeller](#):
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> The stuffed rabbit which is _dropped_ on the ground is clearly a reference to Bond’s history of promiscuity,
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### Author:  [@stromberg](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/stromberg)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2021, 7:41pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/84 "2021-10-20T19:41:17Z")
Totally forgot about this one:
the Foxgloves in Madeleine’s office, when Safin tells her that he once saved a life.
Foxgloves, latin name _digitalis_, were once used to save Bond’s life. The poison they contain were the antidote when he was poisoned in CR.
🤓
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### Author:  [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/85 "2021-10-20T19:56:29Z")
That is most impressive!
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### Author:  [@theSpectre](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/theSpectre)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2021, 8:00pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/86 "2021-10-20T20:00:11Z")
I thought the digitalis was the poison.
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### Author:  [@stromberg](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/stromberg)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/87 "2021-10-20T20:36:27Z")
You may have a point there. I always understood it that way that digitalis was used as the antidote, as the substances in it can be used to prevent heart failure. But it’s well possible (and one or the other things I just found on the interweb indicates so), that it actually was the poison. Possible that that part of the scene was lost to me in translation… 😉
Anyhow, the digitalis connection is there.
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### Author:  [@MkB](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MkB)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/88 "2021-10-20T20:54:38Z")
Just checked, indeed digitalis was the poison. But as you said, the connection is there anyway, albeit in a more sinister way.
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### Author:  [@theSpectre](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/theSpectre)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2021, 9:03pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/89 "2021-10-20T21:03:19Z")
So that would seemingly reframe it to be foreshadowing for the poison that Bond gets exposed to that would kill Madeleine and Matilde.
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### Author:  [@cgebby](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/cgebby)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2021, 9:37am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/90 "2021-10-21T09:37:20Z")
So many layers to this film!
As a complete aside, did anyone get Jurassic Park vibes from NTTD? The labs and scramble to get hands on DNA, the boats arriving to an island as suspenseful countdown device, the buyers unleashing a bio engineered terror on the world, even an old man’s (M/Hammond) career project blowing up in his face.
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### Author:  [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2021, 10:01am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/91 "2021-10-21T10:01:52Z")
Ha! Interesting. The world’s always going to end due to some old man’s idea having disastrous´ consequences.
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### Author:  [@theSpectre](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/theSpectre)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2021, 1:36pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/92 "2021-10-21T13:36:36Z")
They were so busy with figuring out if they could, they never stopped to ask if they should!
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### Author:  [@MkB](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MkB)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/93 "2021-10-21T14:45:31Z")
> [@secretagentfan](#):
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> The world’s always going to end due to some old man’s idea having disastrous´ consequences.
Some even believe that’s how the world started… 😉
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### Author:  [@secretagentfan](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/secretagentfan)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2021, 3:07pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/94 "2021-10-21T15:07:48Z")
That’s a great line!
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### Author:  [@MrHinx](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/MrHinx)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/95 "2021-10-21T16:48:14Z")
It is… but even better is this Bond villainesque quote from JP2:
“This suit cost more than your education.”
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### Author:  [@theSpectre](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/theSpectre)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/96 "2021-10-21T19:14:44Z")
I gotta say, there were quite a few references to Metal Gear Solid in No Time To Die. The Heracles virus is the FoxDie virus from MGS 1. Bond climbing the ladder at the end is reminiscent of the ladder scene from MGS 3 (MGS 3 was itself a big homage to James Bond). Bond/Nomi approaching the villain’s base by sub is like the opening cinematic of MGS1. Bond indirectly killing his “brother” Blofeld with Heracles is like Snake indirectly killing his “brother” Liquid with FoxDie. No to mention, well nanomachines…
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### Author:  [@cgebby](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/cgebby)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2021, 8:41pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/97 "2021-10-21T20:41:36Z")
Was that the game they accused CJF of playing rather than focusing on filming Bond 25? Clearly, he did a good job filming it
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### Author:  [@theSpectre](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/theSpectre)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/98 "2021-10-21T22:03:30Z")
I think it was Red Dead Redemption 2.
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### Author:  [@sharpshooter](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/sharpshooter)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/99 "2021-10-21T23:23:08Z")
I’ve also seen a clip where Safin says people want _Oblivion_…
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### Author:  [@cgebby](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/u/cgebby)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2021, 12:50am UTC](https://quarterdeck.commanderbond.net/t/tally-ho-reference-hunters/2091/100 "2021-10-22T00:50:11Z")
Hopefully the video game and not the Tom Cruise movie.
Wait! Olga Kurylenko is in that. Mmmmm … Oblivion!
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