Deathmatch 2022

It is an odd trait in fandoms, hate hard on the last guy with Batman and Bond. Hate REALLY hard and pretend the last era a masterpiece in Star Trek and Star Wars - come Bond 7, Craig will be hated and when Star Trek gets rebooted the Kelvin timeline will be heralded.

Some number-crunching, amidst all the bone-crunching, for Round 2.

Form table after Round 2 – form based on average % chance of success in a match.

Form (change in rank from R1) (change in form from R1) Rank against Villain at same stage 2022
From Russia with Love 81.8 (-) (-2.7) Film +4
Casino Royale 2006 78.4 (-) (+2.4) Film +10
The Spy who Loved Me 76 (+2) (+4.5) Film +8
OHMSS 74.6 (-1) (+1.85) Film +3
Skyfall 71.2 (+1) (-0.05) Villain +1
Goldfinger 69.2 (-2) (-3.3) Villain +4
You Only Live Twice 65.6 (-) (-5.4) Film +3
No Time To Die 58.2 (+1) (+3.2) Film +15
Tomorrow Never Dies 53.2 (-1) (-11.8) Film +9
For Your Eyes Only 50.8 (+3) (+1.3) Film +5
Moonraker 49.6 (-) (-1.4) Villain +10
Thunderball 47.6 (-2) (-4.9) Villain +6
Diamonds are Forever 44 (-1) (-6.5) Film +4
Licence to Kill 43.75 (+3) (-) Villain +5
The Man with the Golden Gun 42 (-1) (-3.25) Villain +12
Dr No 41.6 (-) (-3.15) Villain +3
GoldenEye 39.5 (+1) (-) Villain +1
Live and Let Die 39.25 (+1) (-) Villain +4
The Living Daylights 38.6 (-4) (-6.65) Film +3
Octopussy 31.5 (-) (-) Villains +1
Quantum of Solace 31.25 (-) (-) Film +4
TWINE 23.75 (-) (-) Villain +2
Spectre 23.5 (-) (-) Film +1
A View to a Kill 19.25 (-) (-) Villain +16
Die Another Day 18.25 (-) (-) Villain +4

As far as the instant set of Deathmatches go, the Quarter-Finals are now on and there will be some big names falling at that stage, given the draw.

As far as the Villain comparison goes, there’s still time for these rankings to adjust but in principle, the higher the positive number for the Villain, the more they may be the highpoint of their films - Zorin, Drax, Scaramanga, say - and the more the Film is ahead, perhaps the villainy is a bit weak, or overshadowed by other qualities? No Time to Die, I am looking at you.

At least Graves can go to his… grave knowing he is marginally more popular than the rubbish that surrounds him.

For Round 2 of the Films match, big fall for Tomorrow Never Dies, although still markedly the most popular of the Brosnans (which is saying very little) and The Living Daylights drops alarmingly although, and some solace, it’s still more popular than its villains. This is a very teeny compliment. Most ickle. Talking of solace, albeit it is a scramble for dust, Dominic Greene may be all dried up but there’s hope for the film yet. A very small hope.

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Form table after some pretty gnarly Quarter-Finals

Form (change in rank from R2) (change in form from R2)
From Russia with Love 75 (-) (-6.8)
The Spy who Loved Me 73.1 (+1) (-2.9)
Skyfall 73 (+2) (+1.8)
Casino Royale 2006 72.17 (-2) (-6.23)
OHMSS 72 (-1) (-2.6)
Goldfinger 68.5 (-) (-0.7)
You Only Live Twice 65.6
Tomorrow Never Dies 53.2 (+1)
No Time To Die 51.5 (-1) (-6.7)
Moonraker 49.6 (+1)
For Your Eyes Only 48.17 (-1) (-2.63)
Thunderball 47.6
Diamonds are Forever 44
Licence to Kill 43.75
The Man with the Golden Gun 42
Dr No 41.6
GoldenEye 39.5
Live and Let Die 39.25
The Living Daylights 38.6
Octopussy 31.5
Quantum of Solace 31.25
TWINE 23.75
Spectre 23.5
A View to a Kill 19.25
Die Another Day 18.25

From Russia with Love, last year’s undefeated winner, is out at the Quarter-Final stage. Also out, Casino Royale 2006, which finished Runner-Up in last year’s Deathmatch.

Big drops for From Russia with Love, Casino Royale and No Time To Die in their form, and last year’s form winner (also From Russia with Love) will be nervous (I accept it is a non-sentient entity, but so what?) as The Spy who Loved Me and Skyfall creep slowly up the form table. No Time To Die is a bit of a shocker, interpret that as you will, and its net effect is to push Tomorrow Never Dies up the form table, which distances that yet further from GoldenEye. “No Time To Die - Even Makes A Brosnan Look Better” - one suspects they wouldn’t use that slogan. Moonraker drifts dreamily into the Top 10, leaving For Your Eyes Only in its moonlight trail. Justice done, if I’m permitted a moment of bias.

Things to look out for from Semi-Finals - possibility of From Russia with Love being toppled from its form pedestal, and depending on outcomes, any of places 2-5 could do that. However, constant infighting may mean From Russia with Love doesn’t budge, especially if the Semi-Finals are close. Goldfinger very much an outside bet to achieve a rise in placing, but might be looking over its shoulder warily at You Only Live Twice (as one tends to) if it suffers a heavy defeat. Things from 8 down seem settled unless Goldfinger is completely (sour) mashed.

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With Semi-Finals done…

Form (change in rank from QF) (change in form from QF)
From Russia with Love 75
Casino Royale 2006 72.17 (+2) (-)
The Spy who Loved Me 70.6 (-1) (-2.5)
Skyfall 68.1 (-1) (-4.9)
OHMSS 68 (-) (-4)
Goldfinger 67.4 (-) (-1.1)
You Only Live Twice 65.6
Tomorrow Never Dies 53.2
No Time To Die 51.5
Moonraker 49.6
For Your Eyes Only 48.17
Thunderball 47.6
Diamonds are Forever 44
Licence to Kill 43.75
The Man with the Golden Gun 42
Dr No 41.6
GoldenEye 39.5
Live and Let Die 39.25
The Living Daylights 38.6
Octopussy 31.5
Quantum of Solace 31.25
TWINE 23.75
Spectre 23.5
A View to a Kill 19.25
Die Another Day 18.25

The major beneficaires of the Semi-Finals appear to be the non-participants From Russia with Love and Casino Royale. Be your game chess or poker, seems that the playing of the odds works.

Or being drawn against the likes of Spectre and A View to a Kill in Round 1. These two were in the same group and seem tied together.

Conceptually, the further one progresses it is likely the tighter the games become and one’s average share of the vote will suffer, so a tactic may be to win big early and then flame out. Perhaps.

Still, they were knocked out, form is temporary and class is permanent (etc.) and it’s a Goldfinger v The Spy who Loved Me final. A big win for either could tamper with the form table a bit but it’ll take some doing to knock From Russia with Love from the top.

The Deathmatch winners in 2020 and 2021 were OHMSS and From Russia with Love, respectively, albeit the 2020 series (brought to you by Virus Omega - makes you just lurve masticating a banana) - ran in a slightly diferent way. So we will have a new champion this year. Form suggests The Spy who Loved Me but the surprise package for both Villain and Film Deathmatches has been Goldfinger, which has arguably underperformed in previous years.

That said, looking at the form tables over the past three years, perhaps it hasn’t. (Blanks are issues still to be determined).

Form 2020 (Deathmatch position) Form 2021 (Deathmatch position) Form 2022
Dr No 24 22 16
From Russia with Love 7 1 (1st)
Goldfinger 11 7 (4th)
Thunderball 9 (4th) 14 12
You Only Live Twice 17 10
OHMSS 3 (1st) 2 (3rd)
Diamonds are Forever 16 15 13
Live and Let Die 21 19 18
The Man with the Golden Gun 22 18 15
The Spy who Loved Me 1 3
Moonraker 6 (3rd) 9 10
For Your Eyes Only 13 6 11
Octopussy 15 8 20
A View to a Kill 23 20 24
The Living Daylights 5 12 19
Licence to Kill 12 13 14
GoldenEye 4 11 17
Tomorrow Never Dies 8 16 8
TWINE 18 23 22
Die Another Day 19 24 25
Casino Royale 2 (2nd) 4 (2nd)
Quantum of Solace 14 17 21
Skyfall 10 5
Spectre 20 21 23
No Time To Die - - 9

Live and Let Die consistently not that popular? Some big falls across the years for others…

As with its villain, Licence to Kill seems to be the most consistent player. Diamonds are Forever pretty consistent too. Also Die Another Day and Spectre, for reasons not worth going into.

We haven’t had a Deathmatch winner younger than 53 years old so far; might break that this year with a youngling of a mere 45. The Brosnans saved the series! The Craigs were a new direction! Neither seems to have much punch, though. Even if it finishes high in the form table, Casino Royale might be this year’s underachiever based on Deathmatch performance.

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We have a winner.

The Spy who Loved Me wins the 2022 Deathmatch knockout, making it the youngest winner of the Deathmatch: Films so far. At 45. Gives us all hope.

Form table as below, with From Russia with Love top for the second year in a row. Hard to bet against it. The round of third-place death-off and the Final produced one last surprise; due to the outcomes of both, You Only Live Twice emerges as fifth in the running.

Some further number crunching follows tomorrow, with Deathmatch: Songs starting on Saturday.

Form (change in rank from SF) (change in form from SF)
From Russia with Love 75
Casino Royale 2006 72.17
The Spy who Loved Me 70.78(-) (+0.18)
OHMSS 67.88 (+1) (-0.12)
You Only Live Twice 65.6 (+2)
Skyfall 63.71 (-2) (-4.39)
Goldfinger 62.48 (-1) (-4.92)
Tomorrow Never Dies 53.2
No Time To Die 51.5
Moonraker 49.6
For Your Eyes Only 48.17
Thunderball 47.6
Diamonds are Forever 44
Licence to Kill 43.75
The Man with the Golden Gun 42
Dr No 41.6
GoldenEye 39.5
Live and Let Die 39.25
The Living Daylights 38.6
Octopussy 31.5
Quantum of Solace 31.25
TWINE 23.75
Spectre 23.5
A View to a Kill 19.25
Die Another Day 18.25
Form 2020 (Deathmatch position) Form 2021 (Deathmatch position) Form 2022
Dr No 24 22 16
From Russia with Love 7 1 (1st) 1
Goldfinger 11 7 (4th) 7 (2nd)
Thunderball 9 (4th) 14 12
You Only Live Twice 17 10 5
OHMSS 3 (1st) 2 (3rd) 4 (3rd)
Diamonds are Forever 16 15 13
Live and Let Die 21 19 18
The Man with the Golden Gun 22 18 15
The Spy who Loved Me 1 3 3 (1st)
Moonraker 6 (3rd) 9 10
For Your Eyes Only 13 6 11
Octopussy 15 8 20
A View to a Kill 23 20 24
The Living Daylights 5 12 19
Licence to Kill 12 13 14
GoldenEye 4 11 17
Tomorrow Never Dies 8 16 8
TWINE 18 23 22
Die Another Day 19 24 25
Casino Royale 2 (2nd) 4 (2nd) 2
Quantum of Solace 14 17 21
Skyfall 10 5 6 (4th)
Spectre 20 21 23
No Time To Die - - 9
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Glad to see a win for TSWLM, especially since I just got a link on my smartphone to an article ranking all the Bond films (how original) wherein it was placed all the way down at 23 or something (!). But that was going on “critic’s reviews” (which probably means Rotten Tomatoes) and I think we all agreed a long time ago none of them know their asses from holes in the ground. So all is well.

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Songs Deathmatches - Group stage - now open to 20 June.

Some further overview of stats to come - table below is the merged averages of how things finished for both Films and Villains over the past three years. This enables seeding for 2023 in both. Yes, I know No Time To Die is now 8th seed as a Film for next year, but it could have performed worse - its Villain did.

Seed for 2023 Film Villain (by film) Gap from Film to Villain
1 The Spy who Loved Me OHMSS +11 Film
2 Casino Royale 2006 Moonraker +6 Film
3 From Russia with Love Skyfall +2 Film
4 OHMSS The Man with the Golden Gun +3 Villain
5 Skyfall From Russia with Love +2 Villain
6 Goldfinger Thunderball +4 Film
7 Moonraker Licence to Kill +5 Villain
8 No Time To Die Casino Royale 2006 +14 Film
9 For Your Eyes Only A View to a Kill +12 Film
10 GoldenEye Goldfinger +4 Film
You Only Live Twice Dr No +8 Film
Tomorrow Never Dies The Spy who Loved Me +3 Film
Thunderball Live and Let Die +7 Villain
The Living Daylights GoldenEye +10 Film
Licence to Kill Tomorrow Never Dies +8 Villain
Octopussy Diamonds are Forever +2 Film
Diamonds are Forever The World is Not Enough +1 Villain
Quantum of Solace Octopussy +7 Film
The Man with the Golden Gun You Only Live Twice +15 Villain
Live and Let Die Spectre +7 Villain
Dr No For Your Eyes Only +10 Villain
The World is Not Enough No Time To Die +5 Villain
Spectre Die Another Day +3 Villain
A View to a Kill The Living Daylights +15 Villain
Die Another Day Quantum of Solace +2 Villain

The Spy who Loved Me, this year’s Film Deathmatch winner, is the most consistent finisher as far as form goes over the past 3 years, so that’s another missile in its silo.

Six films are in the top ten for both - this may reduce further once the Songs results come through.

GoldenEye scrapes through as a top ten seed due to a strong finish in 2020, albeit not so popular since. For Your Eyes Only mysteriously over-promoted. Scaramanga and Zorin evidently carry their respective films.

Most consistent between Film and Villain - Diamonds are Forever (it has to win something). Consistently mediocre, but it does have a consistency. Much like that mud bath thing at the start. Or Blofeld’s foundation.

No Time To Die - biggest gap between Film and Villain popularity. Whilst its placing as a Film will alter over the years, perhaps the gap won’t, very much. It’s known in the trade* as “doing a Stromberg”.

*There’s no trade but there’s a bit of science to this, although it’s the sort of robust science represented by DNA replacement surgery, un-EMPable permanent nanobots and glugging bleach to see off Covid.

More to come.

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Round 2 for the Songs is now open; the group stage Round 1 has concluded, as follows:

A Played W D L F A Goal difference Average % share of vote Points
You Know My Name 4 4 0 0 69 15 +54 82 12
A View to a Kill 4 3 0 1 62 21 +41 75 9
From Russia with Love 4 2 0 2 46 39 +7 53.75 6
Underneath the Mango Tree 4 1 0 3 15 69 -54 18 3
The Writing’s on the Wall 4 0 0 4 18 66 -48 21.5 0

Perhaps one of the more true-to-accepted-norms outcomes for the top two. As far as the group stage goes, albeit even with worse form, Underneath the Mango Tree did hand out a beating to The Writing’s on the Wall, for whom the writing’s on the wall.

Underneath the Mango Tree did suffer a total walkover at the hands of You Know My Name and two more different songs in the repertoire it would be tricky to find. Still, more popular than anything associated with Spectre, which seems to be a running theme of this month’s matches across all given areas.

From Russia with Love likely to be a lucky loser on that form.

B Played W D L F A Goal difference Average % share of vote Points
Live and Let Die 4 4 0 0 75 7 +68 91.75 12
Goldfinger 4 3 0 1 50 33 +17 61 9
No Time To Die 4 2 0 2 32 46 -14 41.5 6
GoldenEye 4 1 0 3 27 51 -24 35.25 3
Licence to Kill 4 0 0 4 16 63 -47 20.5 0

Yikes. With 95% of the vote in three of its group matches, and not up against any traditional whipping-boys of the genre, can anything stop Live and Let Die?

No Time To Die might struggle to be a Lucky Loser on that form.

Surprisingly weak showing for Licence to Kill? Thought that was more popular but may have been a tough draw on this occasion.

C Played W D L F A Goal difference Average % share of vote Points
Nobody Does It Better 4 4 0 0 54 28 +26 67.5 12
Skyfall 4 3 0 1 63 25 +38 68.25 9
Thunderball 4 2 0 2 42 38 +4 52.5 6
The World is Not Enough 4 1 0 3 40 38 +2 51.75 3
Another Way to Die 4 0 0 4 8 70 -62 10 0

Perhaps the most straightforward of the groups, and that’s a chewy goal difference between the top two and the rest. However, due to the presence of Another Way to Die, 3rd and 4th places may be Lucky Losers as their form undoubtedly has been helped by grinding Another Way to Die into the dirt.

Nobody Does It Better wins, but that goal difference is the lowest of any of the group winners, and even Another Way to Die scored nearly half of its points against it. Hmm.

Another walkover here - Skyfall trouncing immediate predecessor Another Way to Die.

D Played W D L F A Goal difference Average % share of vote Points
Diamonds are Forever 4 4 0 0 69 14 +55 83 12
You Only Live Twice 4 3 0 1 65 19 +46 77.5 9
Tomorrow Never Dies 4 2 0 2 30 52 -22 37.25 6
The Man with the Golden Gun 4 1 0 3 28 55 -27 34 3
Die Another Day 4 0 0 4 15 67 -52 18.25 0

Again, possibly true to form and the bottom two not that massive a surprise, albeit Die Another Day did seem to score points. Sigmund Freud, analyse that.

Not much between the top two in their game (11-10 to Diamonds are Forever, which is tighter than Blofeld’s bra), but others are very distant, really. Given how horrid they both are, margin of victory for The Man with the Golden Gun over Die Another Die was fairly broad.

E Played W D L F A Goal difference Average % share of vote Points
We Have All the Time in the World 4 4 0 0 62 22 +40 73.5 12
Moonraker 4 3 0 1 47 37 +10 56 9
The Living Daylights 4 2 0 2 43 41 +2 51.25 6
For Your Eyes Only 4 1 0 3 35 49 -14 41.75 3
All Time High 4 0 0 4 23 61 -38 27.5 0

Possibly the tightest of the groups overall, with All Time High not really getting a massive beating albeit very definitely finishing last. Pretty tight between Moonraker and The Living Daylights for second place, and The Living Daylights will patently be a Lucky Loser moving into Round 2.

Form table

Round 1 (average % share of votes)
Live and Let Die 91.75
Diamonds are Forever 83
You Know My Name 82
You Only Live Twice 77.5
A View to a Kill 75
We Have All the Time in the World 73.5
Skyfall 68.25
Nobody Does It Better 67.5
Goldfinger 61
Moonraker 56
From Russia with Love 53.75
Thunderball 52.5
The World is Not Enough 51.75
The Living Daylights 51.25
For Your Eyes Only 41.75
No Time To Die 41.5
Tomorrow Never Dies 37.25
GoldenEye 35.25
The Man with the Golden Gun 34
All Time High 27.5
The Writing’s on the Wall 21.5
Licence to Kill 20.5
Die Another Day 18.25
Underneath the Mango Tree 18
Another Way to Die 10

Probably too early to make predictions with confidence yet but even if it doesn’t go on to win the knockout Deathmatch, Live and Let Die seems bolted to the top of the form tree (it has berries) for a little while yet.

No Time To Die squeaks into Round 2 but it’s another pretty underwhelming showing for something so shiny and new.

With 40% of the Top Ten represented by the one decade, and its worst performer not the lowest of the low, are we headed towards another 1970s winner for this year’s tournament?

Round 2 matches as follows:

You Know My Name v Thunderball (would have been From Russia with Love but that had already happened in Round 1)
Live and Let Die v Moonraker
Nobody Does It Better v You Only Live Twice
Diamonds are Forever v From Russia with Love
We Have All the Time in the World v The World is Not Enough (the “Confusion about the World” derby)
Goldfinger v The Living Daylights
A View to a Kill v For Your Eyes Only
Skyfall v No Time To Die

Personally, and not to sway voting, suspect the “home” song may have the edge in all of these, but that’s just a guess.

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Suspected home form paid off - leading to some challenging Quarter-Finals now underway.

Form table after Round 2

Round 2 (position change from Round 1) (form change)
Live and Let Die 92.4 (-) (+0.65)
Diamonds are Forever 79.8 (-) (-3.2)
You Know My Name 79 (-) (-3)
A View to a Kill 74.2 (+1) (-0.8)
We Have All the Time in the World 74 (+1) (+0.5)
Skyfall 72.6 (+1) (+4.35)
Nobody Does It Better 71.2 (+1) (+3.7)
You Only Live Twice 64.8 (-4) (-12.7)
Goldfinger 64 (-) (+3)
From Russia with Love 49.6 (+1) (-4.15)
Thunderball 48.6 (+1) (-3.9)
The World is Not Enough 46.2 (+1) (-5.55)
Moonraker 45.8 (-3) (-10.2)
The Living Daylights 45.8 (-) (-5.45)
For Your Eyes Only 39.2 (-) (-2.55)
Tomorrow Never Dies 37.25 (+1)
GoldenEye 35.25 (+1)
No Time To Die 35.2 (-2) (-6.3)
The Man with the Golden Gun 34
All Time High 27.5
The Writing’s on the Wall 21.5
Licence to Kill 20.5
Die Another Day 18.25
Underneath the Mango Tree 18
Another Way to Die 10

Live and Let Die improved its form, alarmingly so for the next best. Whatever now happens, it might be tough to shake it from the top, not least because those top two are playing each other in the Quarter-Finals.

Big drop for You Only Live Twice, but still a potential seed for next year depending on further outcomes.

No Time To Die is no longer my, nor your, concern. Let it burn.

Although same form, Moonraker outranks The Living Daylights having beaten it in the Round 1 group stage and finishing as a qualifier from that rather than a Lucky Loser.

Given that From Russia with Love cannot proceed and unless Goldfinger has a calamity in the Quarter-Finals, the Top Ten is probably settled but it’s now about jockeying for position / flogging a dead horse given that there already seems to be a clear winner.

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Quarter-Finals spewed out two close matches, one straightforward win and also a draw between We Have All the Time in the World and A View to a Kill.

Deciding on the draw:

Success v common enemy (For Your Eyes Only): We Have… (etc) played FYEO in the group stage and won 15-6. AVTAK played it in Round 2 and won 15-6. No outcome there.

Form as it currently stands after Q-F: A View to a Kill on 70.17, We Have… (etc) on 70. Very tight, that, but A View to a Kill nudges ahead.

Gain/rise in form over Deathmatch: From its opening form from the group stage, AVTAK has dropped 4.67 points to this stage. We Have… (etc) has dropped 3.5. We Have… (etc) draws level.

Overall goal difference : Not including the draw, AVTAK had scored 77 votes with 27 against. We Have… (etc) scored 78 votes with 27 against. Draw would obviousy keep the margins the same so We Have… (etc) squeezes through into the Semi-Finals by one solitary vote.

Let’s hope these Dominion machines are reliable.

(One other potential catgory - performance in group stage - We Have All the Time in the World won all its group matches and AVTAK lost one, so on matches won, We Have (etc) would also go through. But the “one vote only” lends itself to drama).

Semi-Finals now open to 23 June:

Goldfinger v Nobody Does It Better
We Have all the Time in the World v Live and Let Die (seemingly clashing sentiments).

Quarter-Finals (position change from Round 2) (form change)
Live and Let Die 91.83 (-) (-0.57)
You Know My Name 73.67 (+1) (-5.33)
A View to a Kill 70.17 (+1) (-4.03)
We Have All the Time in the World 70 (+1) (-4)
Diamonds are Forever 68.33 (-3) (-11.47)
Nobody Does It Better 68.17 (+1) (-3.03)
Skyfall 67.83 (-1) (-4.77)
You Only Live Twice 64.8
Goldfinger 62.67 (-) (-1.33)
From Russia with Love 49.6
Thunderball 48.6
The World is Not Enough 46.2
Moonraker 45.8
The Living Daylights 45.8
For Your Eyes Only 39.2
Tomorrow Never Dies 37.25
GoldenEye 35.25
No Time To Die 35.2
The Man with the Golden Gun 34
All Time High 27.5
The Writing’s on the Wall 21.5
Licence to Kill 20.5
Die Another Day 18.25
Underneath the Mango Tree 18
Another Way to Die 10

Although suffering a very minor drop in form, in seeing off the previous second placer Diamonds are Forever, Live and Let Die widens its lead significantly. You Know My Name and A View to a Kill benefit from the pretty heavy defeat of Diamonds are Forever, but are no longer in the knock-out. We Have All the Time in the World could get above them with a good Semi-Final win but it’s up against Live and Let Die, so… hmm.

Nobody Does It Better and Goldfinger are the other two songs still in the match and good performance either way could still affect ranking points in the mid Top Ten. Chewy ranking. One might even say masticatory ranking. But not in front of one’s Granny.

Compared to last year (only one previous year of this Deathmatch) - some remarkable consistency at the QF stage…

Position after QF stage 2022 Position after QF stage 2021
Live and Let Die Live and Let Die
You Know My Name We Have All the Time in the World
A View to a Kill A View to a Kill
We Have All the Time in the World You Know My Name
Diamonds are Forever Goldfinger
Nobody Does It Better The World is Not Enough
Skyfall Skyfall
You Only Live Twice You Only Live Twice
Goldfinger Nobody Does It Better
From Russia with Love Thunderball
Thunderball For Your Eyes Only
The World is Not Enough Diamonds are Forever
Moonraker Moonraker
The Living Daylights The Living Daylights
For Your Eyes Only No Time To Die
Tomorrow Never Dies Licence to Kill
GoldenEye Tomorrow Never Dies
No Time To Die GoldenEye
The Man with the Golden Gun From Russia with Love
All Time High The Man with the Golden Gun
The Writing’s on the Wall All Time High
Licence to Kill Another Way to Die
Die Another Day The Writing’s on the Wall
Underneath the Mango Tree Underneath the Mango Tree
Another Way to Die Die Another Day
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Form table after Semi-Finals stage

Semi-Finals (position change from Quarter-Finals) (form change)
Live and Let Die 89.9 (-) (-1.93)
You Know My Name 73.67
A View to a Kill 70.17
Diamonds are Forever 68.33 (+1)
Nobody Does It Better 68 (+1) (-0.17)
Skyfall 67.83 (+1)
You Only Live Twice 64.8 (+1)
We Have All the Time in the World 63.14 (-4) (-6.86)
Goldfinger 58.43 (-) (-4.24)
From Russia with Love 49.6
Thunderball 48.6
The World is Not Enough 46.2
Moonraker 45.8
The Living Daylights 45.8
For Your Eyes Only 39.2
Tomorrow Never Dies 37.25
GoldenEye 35.25
No Time To Die 35.2
The Man with the Golden Gun 34
All Time High 27.5
The Writing’s on the Wall 21.5
Licence to Kill 20.5
Die Another Day 18.25
Underneath the Mango Tree 18
Another Way to Die 10

Albeit again with a very slight erosion of its vote share, Live and Let Die handed out a bit of a hammering to We Have All the Time in the World, such as to make it sink down the form table quite significantly, and pushing Diamonds are Forever back into the top 4. You might have all the time in the World (you don’t, it’s ironic) but you certainly don’t have all the votes.

However, We Have… (etc) is still in the game, now vying for third place in the knockout so things can still move about there. Depends how well it does against Goldfinger, which seems to find itself locked into 9th place here.

Nobody Does It Better takes on Live and Let Die in the Final, and again its vote share there could jigger things about a bit. Live and Let Die having won the form league some time ago (barring a total catastrophe in the Final), will it be caught out by pity voting?

Still - the 1970s, eh? Deathmatches this year are pointing to it as Bond’s GoldenAge. That’s not uninteresting.

Stop press (hold on to your bladders): as there’s still a bit of June left (and it is a favourite month o’mine), there will be a new catgory for Deathmatches 2022 - launches 24th June. Contain yourselves.

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We have a winner, and it seemed pretty clear throughout.

Live and Let Die retains its Deathmatch crown and tops the form table too, as indeed it also did last year. Can it ever be beaten? Can we tolerate the inevitable upcoming Glastonbury sing-along of it?

Deathmatch placings 2022:

1st: Live and Let Die
2nd: Nobody Does It Better
3rd: We Have All the Time in the World
4th: Goldfinger

Stats to follow: in the meantime, a new category for 2022 will go live later today.

Final form table:

Live and Let Die 86.41
You Know My Name 73.67
A View to a Kill 70.17
Diamonds are Forever 68.33
Skyfall 67.83
You Only Live Twice 64.8
Nobody Does It Better 64.25
We Have All the Time in the World 62.38
Goldfinger 56.5
From Russia with Love 49.6
Thunderball 48.6
The World is Not Enough 46.2
Moonraker 45.8
The Living Daylights 45.8
For Your Eyes Only 39.2
Tomorrow Never Dies 37.25
GoldenEye 35.25
No Time To Die 35.2
The Man with the Golden Gun 34
All Time High 27.5
The Writing’s on the Wall 21.5
Licence to Kill 20.5
Die Another Day 18.25
Underneath the Mango Tree 18
Another Way to Die 10
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Songs – Form year-on-year (this has only run for two years) and seeding for 2023

Form 2021 (Deathmatch position) Form 2022 (Deathmatch position) Seeding for 2023
Underneath the Mango Tree 24 24
From Russia with Love 19 10
Goldfinger 4 9 (4th) 6
Thunderball 9 11
You Only Live Twice 11 (4th) 6 9
We Have All the Time in the World 2 8 (3rd) 4
Diamonds are Forever 12 4 8
Live and Let Die 1 (1st) 1 (1st) 1
The Man with the Golden Gun 20 19
Nobody Does it Better 8 (3rd) 7 (2nd) 7
Moonraker 13 13
For Your Eyes Only 10 15
All Time High 21 20
A View to a Kill 3 3 2
The Living Daylights 14 14
Licence to Kill 16 22
GoldenEye 18 17
Tomorrow Never Dies 17 16
The World is Not Enough 5 12 10
Die Another Day 25 23
You Know My Name 7 (2nd) 2 3
Another Way to Die 22 25
Skyfall 6 5 5
The Writing’s on the Wall 23 21
No Time To Die 15 18

Top Ten of everything so far (form) for 2022

Villains Films Songs
Drax From Russia with Love Live and Let Die
Klebb & Grant Casino Royale You Know My Name
Goldfinger The Spy who Loved Me A View to a Kill
Scaramanga OHMSS Diamonds are Forever
OHMSS Blofeld You Only Live Twice Skyfall
Silva Skyfall You Only Live Twice
Largo Goldfinger Nobody Does It Better
Sanchez Tomorrow Never Dies We Have All the Time in the World
YOLT Blofeld No Time To Die Goldfinger
Zorin Moonraker From Russia with Love

(I accept only certain categories are used, but at least there’s some variation here)

Films with most appearances in Top Tens so far - 2022

From Russia with Love (3)

Goldfinger (3)

You Only Live Twice (3)

OHMSS (3)

Skyfall (3)

The Spy who Loved Me (2)

Moonraker (2)

A View to a Kill (2)

Casino Royale (2)

Thunderball (1)

Diamonds are Forever (1)

Live and Let Die (1)

The Man with the Golden Gun (1)

Licence to Kill (1)

Tomorrow Never Dies (1)

No Time to Die (1)

Yet to trouble the Top Ten in any manifestation so far - 2022

Dr No

For Your Eyes Only

Octopussy

The Living Daylights

GoldenEye

The World is Not Enough

Die Another Day

Quantum of Solace

Spectre

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Bonds.

Some interesting outcomes here, not least the ongoing debate about what acting actually is. Perhaps this one ended up more provocative than it was intended to be. Again, diversity and range of performance preferences…

A Played W D L F A Goal difference Average % share of vote Points
Craig – Casino Royale 4 4 0 0 64 20 +44 75.75 12
Connery - From Russia with Love 4 3 0 1 70 13 +57 84.5 9
Connery – Dr No 4 2 0 2 42 42 0 50 6
Craig – Spectre 4 1 0 3 24 59 -35 28.75 3
Moore – A View to a Kill 4 0 0 4 9 75 -66 11 0
B Played W D L F A Goal difference Average % share of vote Points
Connery – Goldfinger 4 4 0 0 58 11 +47 84.25 12
Craig – No Time To Die 4 3 0 1 43 29 +14 59.75 9
Dalton – Licence to Kill 4 2 0 2 33 36 -3 48.25 6
Moore – Live and Let Die 4 1 0 3 23 47 -24 32.25 3
Brosnan – GoldenEye 4 0 0 4 18 52 -34 25.5 0
C Played W D L F A Goal difference Average % share of vote Points
Moore – TSWLM 4 4 0 0 51 18 +33 74 12
Craig – Skyfall 4 3 0 1 46 22 +24 67.5 9
Connery – Thunderball 4 2 0 2 34 35 -1 49.25 6
Craig – Quantum of Solace 4 1 0 3 25 43 -18 37 3
Brosnan – TWINE 4 0 0 4 15 53 -38 22.25 0
D Played W D L F A Goal difference Average % share of vote Points
Brosnan – Tomorrow Never Dies 4 4 0 0 50 25 +25 66.5 12
Connery – Diamonds are Forever 4 3 0 1 45 31 +14 59.25 9
Moore – TMwtGG 4 2 0 2 37 38 -1 49.75 6
Connery – YOLT 4 1 0 3 35 42 -7 43.75 3
Brosnan – DAD 4 0 0 4 23 52 -29 30.75 0
E Played W D L F A Goal difference Average % share of vote Points
Dalton – The Living Daylights 4 4 0 0 52 20 +32 72.75 12
Moore – For Your Eyes Only 4 3 0 1 41 30 +11 58 9
Moore – Moonraker 4 1 1 2 36 37 -1 49 4
Lazenby – OHMSS 4 1 1 2 29 42 -13 40.75 4
Moore – Octopussy 4 0 0 4 22 51 -29 30 0

GoldenEye - ouch.

Form table after Round 1

Performance Form (average & of votes cast)
Connery – From Russia with Love 84.5
Connery – Goldfinger 84.25
Craig – Casino Royale 75.75
Moore – The Spy who Loved Me 74
Dalton – The Living Daylights 72.75
Craig – Skyfall 67.5
Brosnan – Tomorrow Never Dies 66.5
Craig – No Time To Die 59.75
Connery – Diamonds are Forever 59.25
Moore – For Your Eyes Only 58
Connery – Dr No 50
Moore – The Man with the Golden Gun 49.75
Connery – Thunderball 49.25
Moore – Moonraker 49
Dalton – Licence to Kill 48.25
Connery – You Only Live Twice 43.75
Lazenby – OHMSS 40.75
Craig – Quantum of Solace 37
Moore – Live and Let Die 32.25
Brosnan – Die Another Day 30.75
Moore – Octopussy 30
Craig – Spectre 28.75
Brosnan – GoldenEye 25.5
Brosnan – TWINE 22.25
Moore – A View to a Kill 11

Round 2 matches

Craig – Casino Royale v Moore- The Man with the Golden Gun

Connery – Goldfinger v Moore – For Your Eyes Only

Moore – The Spy who Loved Me v Connery – Diamonds are Forever

Brosnan – Tomorrow Never Dies v Connery – Dr No

Dalton – The Living Daylights v Connery - Thunderball

Craig – No Time To Die v Moore - Moonraker

Connery – From Russia with Love v Dalton – Licence to Kill

Craig – Skyfall v Connery – You Only Live Twice

All six Eon Connery performances get into Round 2. Mm-hm. I accept both Daltons did too, but oddly that doesn’t seem as impressive. We have a Brosnan! Not sure for how long, but he’s there. Bless.

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Form table after Round 2

Performance Form (Position change from R1) (Form change from R1)
Connery – From Russia with Love 86.4 (-) (+1.9)
Connery – Goldfinger 82.6 (-) (-1.65)
Craig – Casino Royale 79.4 (-) (+4.15)
Moore – The Spy who Loved Me 76.8 (-) (+2.8)
Craig – Skyfall 74 (+1) (+6.5)
Dalton – The Living Daylights 67.6 (-1) (-5.15)
Brosnan – Tomorrow Never Dies 60.2 (-) (-6.3)
Craig – No Time To Die 59.6 (-) (-0.15)
Connery – Dr No 53 (+2) (+3)
Moore – For Your Eyes Only 51.2 (-) (-6.8)
Connery – Thunderball 50 (+2) (+0.75)
Connery – Diamonds are Forever 49.8 (-3) (-9.45)
Moore – Moonraker 47.4 (+1) (-1.6)
Moore – The Man with the Golden Gun 41 (-1) (-8.75)
Lazenby – OHMSS 40.75 (+2)
Dalton – Licence to Kill 39.8 (-1) (-8.45)
Craig – Quantum of Solace 37 (+1)
Connery – You Only Live Twice 35 (-2) (-8.75)
Moore – Live and Let Die 32.25
Brosnan – Die Another Day 30.75
Moore – Octopussy 30
Craig – Spectre 28.75
Brosnan – GoldenEye 25.5
Brosnan – TWINE 22.25
Moore – A View to a Kill 11

Not much movement in the higher places - it’s tough at the top, and a little bit flabby at the bottom - and possibly too early to call - no real runaway leader yet.

Some big drops for the two later Connerys and, although the top end of the form table seems to suggest a preference for the more “serious” interpretations, Licence to Kill and The Man with the Golden Gun burned, although there might be a difference between “more serious” and “downright 'orrible”.

Wonder whether there’s much real surprise in the top ten currently being 3 Connery, 3 Craig, 2 Moore, and a Dalton and a Brosnan. Whether I would personally have picked the specific ones there for each Bond is another matter. Dalton and Brosnan certainly the same but the others…hmm.

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The Quarter-Finals produced a draw between Craig - Not Time To Die and Craig - Skyfall.

Craig - Skyfall goes through on the basis of:

Form position prior to Quarter-Final - Craig - Skyfall 5th, Craig - No Time To Die 8th. Other results in the Quarter-Finals may have affected these placings (form table up later) but not between each other.

Form prior to Quarter-Final - Craig - Skyfall 74, Craig - No Time To Die 59.6

Rise or dip in form Round 1 to Round 2 - Craig - Skyfall +6.5, Craig - No Time To Die -0.15

Group stage - both won 3 and lost 1 but Craig - Skyfall had a goal difference of +24, and Craig - No Time To Die +14

No common enemy.

In the second round Craig - No Time To Die beat Moore - Moonraker by 3 votes but Craig - Skyfall had a 17-0 walkover against Connery - You Only Live Twice.

Indicators point to Craig - Skyfall, so that goes through to the Semi-Finals.

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Form table after Quarter-Finals

Performance Form (Position change from R2) (Form change from R2)
Connery – From Russia with Love 84 (-) (-2.4)
Connery – Goldfinger 83.67 (-) (+1.07)
Craig – Casino Royale 76.33 (-) (-3.07)
Moore – The Spy who Loved Me 70.5 (-) (-6.3)
Craig – Skyfall 70 (-) (-4)
Dalton – The Living Daylights 67.6
Brosnan – Tomorrow Never Dies 60.2
Craig – No Time To Die 58 (-) (-1.6)
Moore – For Your Eyes Only 51.2 (+1)
Connery – Diamonds are Forever 49.8 (+2)
Moore – Moonraker 47.4 (+2)
Connery – Thunderball 46.33 (-1) (-3.67)
Connery – Dr No 46 (-4) (-7)
Moore – The Man with the Golden Gun 41
Lazenby – OHMSS 40.75
Dalton – Licence to Kill 39.8
Craig – Quantum of Solace 37
Connery – You Only Live Twice 35
Moore – Live and Let Die 32.25
Brosnan – Die Another Day 30.75
Moore – Octopussy 30
Craig – Spectre 28.75
Brosnan – GoldenEye 25.5
Brosnan – TWINE 22.25
Moore – A View to a Kill 11

Getting pretty tight towards the end of the knockout, with four of the top five involved in the Semi-Finals. Given that there is a Third-place death-off, there’s still quite a bit of voting that could affect form for those four, and the ones surrounding them might be able to take advantage; depending on outcomes, Moore-Spy and Dalton-Daylights could find themselves on the receiving end of a beneficial nudge here and there.

One suspects that outside the top 5 things are more settled, and Connery - Diamonds are Forever settles his wobbly bot into 10th place, a position from which one expects to have to use a winch to extract him.

The general performance of For Your Eyes Only in these Deathmatches - villain aside - is worth noting. Doesn’t appear to get massively popular voting but ambles along under the radar.

Connery - Dr No drops into 13th place but as the middle of the pack, the fulcrum as t’were (or is it pivot?), the balance against which all else is considered, perhaps that’s the natural home for that. Even at a (very) superficial at-a-glance level, I can see the case that the 12 below it just don’t match up but the 12 above it add something that’s worth adding to its basics.

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Might be Connery v Connery

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Yep, turned out that way. Voting in the final closes tomorrow, June 30.

Form table after Semi-Finals

Performance Form (Position change from QF) (Form change from QF)
Connery – Goldfinger 80.86 (+1) (-2.81)
Connery – From Russia with Love 79.86 (-1) (-4.14)
Craig – Casino Royale 71.86 (-) (-4.47)
Moore – The Spy who Loved Me 70.5
Dalton – The Living Daylights 67.6 (+1)
Craig – Skyfall 64.14 (-1) (-5.86)
Brosnan – Tomorrow Never Dies 60.2
Craig – No Time To Die 58
Moore – For Your Eyes Only 51.2
Connery – Diamonds are Forever 49.8
Moore – Moonraker 47.4
Connery – Thunderball 46.33
Connery – Dr No 46
Moore – The Man with the Golden Gun 41
Lazenby – OHMSS 40.75
Dalton – Licence to Kill 39.8
Craig – Quantum of Solace 37
Connery – You Only Live Twice 35
Moore – Live and Let Die 32.25
Brosnan – Die Another Day 30.75
Moore – Octopussy 30
Craig – Spectre 28.75
Brosnan – GoldenEye 25.5
Brosnan – TWINE 22.25
Moore – A View to a Kill 11

At the finals stage, going into the last knockout match, the form table lead changes hands. Madly exciting, is it not? A 59 year-old performance takes on a 58 year-old performance. Someone may win but does that mean we have all lost out since? Probably not, but it is a bit odd.

CraigBond gets to smash himself up for Third place and he’d probably enjoy that.

Closeness of form table suggests there are still positions to play for. Semi-Final stage saw Dalton - The Living Daylights go up, up the wire into fifth place; will that only be a sweet distraction for an hour or twenty-four? Likewise, that top place wig-off might yet reverse itself once more…

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