Deathmatch 2023 - Group E: Main Titles

Voting closes September 17

  • Goldfinger
  • The Spy who Loved Me

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  • Goldfinger
  • Thunderball

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  • Goldfinger
  • The World is Not Enough

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  • Goldfinger
  • Octopussy

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  • The Spy who Loved Me
  • Thunderball

0 voters

  • The Spy who Loved Me
  • The World is Not Enough

0 voters

  • The Spy who Loved Me
  • Octopussy

0 voters

  • Thunderball
  • The World is Not Enough

0 voters

  • Thunderball
  • Octopussy

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  • The World is Not Enough
  • Octopussy

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The shocking conclusion: Bond films were better during the first twenty years.

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I’d argue it shows that there’s a time to tap out. With both Binder and Kleinman their earlier work is more liked than their later stuff.

Personally think Thunderball was Binder’s peak, Casino Royale was Kleinman’s. Not to say the rest aren’t good, but those 2 are hard to beat.

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Thunderball IS great, but I’d say The Spy Who Loved Me/Moonraker is Maurice Binder’s peak and he slowly went downhill from there–and off a cliff post-A View To A Kill.

I agree with you on Daniel Kleinman, although Skyfall is really good too.

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My rankings are:

  1. The World Is Not Enough
  2. The Spy Who Loved Me
  3. Thunderball
  4. Octopussy
  5. Goldfinger

I’m not sure Kleinman peaked with Casino Royale. The CR titles are certainly some of the best in the whole series, but I think Skyfall is even better. I also love the No Time To Die titles as well. Spectre…not so much.

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The octopus sex concerns me.

It never happened in „Octopussy“?

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The use of tentacles was a little more tasteful in 1983!

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Was tentacle porn more mainstream then? (I was born in '88)

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Oh yes… it was as free as the 60s, but with seafood. :lobster: :octopus: :shrimp: (I was 11 in 1983, so maybe my perception was slightly off… which, on reflection, may be slightly concerning)

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I’m just grateful you didn’t include any crabs among those images.

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I was 14 when Octopussy was released - and I did not get why that title was a scandal.

Innocent times.

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It was the first time I remembered going to the ticket window and asking for admission to “the Bond film.” And when the ticket printed out, sure enough it said “James Bond.”

In fairness, I should note the tickets have come out the same way for at least half the Bonds over the last 20 years or so, but that could be because the titles are often too long. And I hear other moviegoers asking for “James Bond” for the same reason: Titles too long, too corny to say with a straight face or too uninteresting to commit to memory.

I do, though, remember a pair of Japanese foreign exchange students asking for tickets to “Octopussy” by name and then dissolving into hysterical laughter like they’d just broken some great taboo and gotten away with it in front of the whole world. I don’t know if they ended up liking the movie, but I think it was worth the ticket price for them just to have that moment.

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