Movies: Presumably 2025, maybe Beyond

When Luke blew up 2 death stars, that didnt occur?

Honestly, no. Not until I saw Clerks and Kevin Smith’s explanation of all the construction workers and regular joes making ends meet working on Death Star 2.0. :laughing:

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It’s the janitors I feel bad for.

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Apologies if this question seems crass, but…

If there were janitors at Auschwitz should we feel sorry for them if the camp had a direct hit in a bombing raid?

Given what they were doing, I dont see the cleanliness of prisoners cells being high on the priority list…

…but, actually, yes, you should feel bad. Not every German was a Nazi, but speaking against them was a death sentence, so they got treated as if they were the very thing they feared.

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Indeed! It’s wildly hypothetical. And I wouldn’t dream of judging someone whose shoe I can barely imagine, let alone walk in.

However, if I may horrendously generalise: if there were janitors at Auschwitz and if they knew the true goings on in that place (how could they not?), then unless their families are hostage isn’t it on them to do their best to leave that situation by any means?

Wouldn’t you?

Going probably far beyond what most of us can easily judge from our daily lives. Where would one even begin such a hypothesis, with janitors that were not there? With air strikes that didn’t happen? With everybody who knew what a place that was - and didn’t do everything to stop what was going on?

Simply not possible for us to form a definite moral position from our place.

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Btw, working in telly, which would always be the Empire’s No1 go to tool for controlling the masses, I probably am that janitor…and I happily take the pay cheques :grimacing:

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But since I view Star Wars as a fairy tale I don’t think about the treatment of a so called witch in Hansel & Gretel either, nor about the consequences of parents letting their children alone in the woods. :sunglasses:

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Not related to any specific film but could have impact on BOND 26…

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Good that he is out, despite „overseeing“ the finishing of NTTD (cue EON hysterically laughing).

DeLuca as successor… man, the bad boy of the 90‘s, another epitome of power corrupts and lets you behave like a misogynistic schoolbully. A typical MGM decision and not good for the future of Bond. EON will have to continue with an iron grip.

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Tbh, this changes nothing for Eon. BB and MGW have more power than the guy from MGM, to the point where MGM have had no input on the Craig era. Until MGM actually start paying their share, this is just white noise in terms of what’s in the films.

If this guy pleasantly surprises me and does a good job, that might improve MGM’s ability to contribute their half, but his CV says that’s not happening.

BB and MGW do have more power over Bond, that’s true - but as every new guy (and especially this guy) DeLuca will at least try to assert power over finding the new 007. Also because if the next actor fails it will taint DeLuca as well.

And that’s where I see trouble. DeLuca is the opposite of restraint. And if he wants to push EON, they will probably veto and wait until DeLuca desperately needs a new Bond film or until he is replaced. And this might take a lot of time…

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It is time between films this will have effect on, no doubt.

Positively or negatively, we’ll see.

And there’s a lot of mouths to feed…

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I was just thinking of the “Jeff Vader” routine before you posted it! :grin:

Also, there’s his “brother”, Chad Vader, day shift manager at Empire market in Wisconsin.

Fun fact, the voice actor, Matt Sloan, was so good he’s voiced Vader in official Star Wars projects like video games and other media.

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Not to mention, some DeLuca’s films when he ran his own production company included such gems as Ghost Rider and gag The Love Guru. This is not a good move for MGM and, by extension, the future of Bond.

Unrelated, I will finally be seeing The Rise of Skywalker tonight. I haven’t managed to stay completely spoiler-free, not that I tried. The major spoilers I have seen have been very underwhelming. I hate to admit it, I don’t have high hopes.

I saw it for the fourth time today, this one in a Dolby Cinema. I’ve enjoyed it each time. There’s a lot to appreciate, if you accept it for what it is–a concluding arc not just to one trilogy, but all three. That may make it predictable or pleasurable, depending on your point of view.

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My initial reaction to Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker:

This movie is okay, not great. The film feels very disconnected to the first 2 films in this trilogy (certainly more connected to The Force Awakens than The Last Jedi). Many of the fears I had going into this film were confirmed: it undoes much of The Last Jedi, Rey’s parentage reveal is weak and predictable, the Emperor’s return is underwhelming, Rose is almost completely ignored.

It feels as if the film was made from a place of fear. Kathleen Kennedy and the production team were so afraid of angering the most vocal and toxic of the Star Wars fanbase that they made a safe film that doesn’t really add anything new.

There are fun moments in the film: every scene with Rey and Kylo, Poe and Finn are as enjoyable as ever. BB-8 is still great. The new characters have been excellent the entire time. The film looks great (mostly).

However, the film moves at near light speed to jam all of the story in. Nothing gets a chance to settle. All of the Leia scenes are jarring and awkward. Rose is sidelined to basically appease all of the haters who ruined her and she deserved better. As little faith as I have in J.J. Abrams, he isn’t really the one at fault here. The blame lies squarely on Disney for the failure of this trilogy. They had a basic outline of a roadmap, but allowed Rian Johnson to subvert all of it in The Last Jedi (which has its shortcomings, but is easily the boldest film of the 3). Then Abrams was brought it to “save” the franchise, but wanted to delay the film by 3 months and Kennedy and Disney said no. He was forced to cobble together a film in a limited time (for no reason as Disney has more money than it knows what to do with). Overall, this trilogy is a failure in all 3 films. It definitely didn’t stick the landing and, IMO, this film is the worst of the 3 and could potentially be the worst in the franchise, but I think I need some time to consider it more. As of now, I rate it 2 out of 5.

As an addendum, when the film opened with the opening crawl, my buddy leaned over to me and said “remember when this made you feel something?” and I just laughed as it is the exact thought I had. At the end of day, I don’t care. It was a nice distraction for a few hours, but I’m good with taking a long break from Star Wars. Bring on No Time To Die!

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Could it be that you don’t feel the same way about it because you’re not a kid anymore?