News on NO TIME TO DIE (no spoilers)

They are also responsible for Die Another Day and Quantum of Solace.

SO great to finally get confirmationā€¦ I had a feeling we would be getting an official announcement any day. Universal is a good choice for the international distribution in my book. Funny they didnā€™t say whether this is just a one film deal or multi film. I guess it will depend on how successful Bond 25 is. :sunglasses:

Universalā€™s pockets are pretty deep especially with Jurassic World and the Fast and the Furious movies. I think itā€™s a good fit. Though Iā€™m confused as to why Sony never outright bought MGM to take over the Bond seriesā€¦

Iā€™d say Fleming was mainly responsible for CRā€¦

Thereā€™s also Oscar winning screenwriter Paul Haggis being hired from the kick off. So how much of CR can p&w take credit for?

As for SF, Logan did the first draft I believe and there after Butterworth doctorā€™s it. So again, how to discern who did what?

Theyā€™re solely responsible for Let Him Have It, 27 years ago and recently Johnnie English Strikes Againā€¦!

And also SS-GB.

Their solo work tells me theyā€™ve a knack for cliche, broad humour and humourless, bull and hackneyed drama - - again, broad.

Theyā€™re obviously Flemings officianardos, but thatā€™s no reason alone to write bond scripts or weā€™d all be at it. Imo itā€™s a combo of being huge fans and having developed a working relationship with Eon that keeps them in the mix.

But what Iā€™m guessing is mainly on their side are diaries; those of good writers are always going to be full unless you book well in advance.

Whereas p&w are probably always available to BBā€™s whims. Thatā€™s an attractive quality in an industry of busy screenwriters. An attractive quality when the producer wants to alter aspects of the script that the original screenwriter isnā€™t comfortable with.

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Canā€™t believe this hasnā€™t been posted yet:

check the news on Bond 25 threadā€¦

Mod note: topics merged

Wow, this is all a bit snobby, isnā€™t it? Thereā€™s stuff you guys love in the Bonds of the last nineteen years, which P&W wrote. Thereā€™s also stuff you donā€™t like which was written by Logan or Haggis We donā€™t know who wrote what. Personally, Oscars donā€™t impress me.

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Personally, Iā€™m just happy to finally get some concrete news. Weā€™ve been so starved that its just nice to hear somethingā€¦

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Indeed, I also wonder why they did not say ā€žfinalā€œ. They probably hope he will return againā€¦

P & W were responsible for QoS? Not Paul Haggis?

All 3 werenā€™t they?

Think of it this way:

They drew a circle,
Haggis made a square out of it,
and then others coloured it while adding bits and pieces.

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Itā€™s also good the release date hasnā€™t changed. I was beginning to think it might.

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Oh my god, this.

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Agreed.

What I will say for Forsterā€™s quick-cut style is that itā€™s at least far more coherent than what Greengrass was doing with the Bourne films. While Iā€™m sure that there is some shaky-cam at work in QoS, a lot of it is just very quick cuts between mostly balanced and stable camera shots. It produces a very similar effect, but I like it far more because, at least for me, the onset of mild motion sickness that sometimes accompanies Greengrassā€™ and other similar pieces of work isnā€™t present with what Forster did in QoS. Itā€™s also easier to follow whatā€™s happening on screen, for the most part (although, the boat chase has its issues at times).

Iā€™d love to see what Forster could have done with perhaps a bit more time to work on the film in post as well as a fully developed script and access to writers during the production. Even absent those things, he still delivered a top-tier Bond film in my book.

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In order to put the whole ā€œthis is an unusually rushed productionā€ issue to rest for good, I did a little digging.

It will actually be the 2nd earliest start of the Craig eraā€¦

Casino Royale Jan 3
Quantum of Solace Jan 3
Skyfall Nov 11
Spectre Dec 8
Bond 25 Dec 4

So there :yum:

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This has been the typical turn around time for Bond films. Which makes it strange that the gap between films has been getting longer and longer.

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No snobbery here!

You wrote:

ā€˜Mainlyā€™ seems a stretch, since, as i said in my reply to you:

But look, in your reply to me - the one above in which you call me a snob - you go on to write:

So, really youā€™ve agreed with me! Whilst simultaneously contradicting yourself by first saying that P&W ā€˜mainlyā€™ wrote CR and SF and then saying that ā€˜We donā€™t know who did whatā€™.

Hmm, hope i donā€™t sound like a snob :wink:

It wasnā€™t just you i was replying to, friend. It has been said elsewhere on this forum that P&W wrote most of Casino Royale, though we donā€™t know precisely which scenes. We know a little: the Venice sequence, for example, wasnā€™t theirs. This has been discussed before. Search it, if you like.