No Time to Die – Member reviews (Spoilers!)

You must not think of nanobots as robots in the traditional sense, i. e. something made of plastic and metal and powered by a battery. They typically are (would be) molecules, powered by chemical process.
An EMP would not have more effect on them than on any other molecule in Bond’s Body.

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I accept that my grasp of science is probably as strong as the screenwriters’ clutch at it!

(Aren’t they shown on screen as evil-looking little weevil things munching on blood cells - or did I just dream that as I dozed?). They seem to be programmable / directed from a flashdrive that can survive digestion so do (?) depend on some sort of transmitted signal, and the capacity to receive it?

I once almost blew myself up with a bunsen burner at school so I’m not advocating any particular scientific skill or aptitutde here.

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I missed the image of the nanobots. But it’s quite possible the writers/graphic designers represented them as tiny yellow backhoe loaders that go beeep beeeep when in reverse gear. TBH, I am still angry at how gene therapy was depicted in DAD.
One has the pet peeves they deserve, I guess.

More seriously, the use of “nanobot viruses” i. e. something that clearly belongs in Sci-Fi, as a justification for Bond’s death, is a big disappointment for me. I understand they needed an absolute necessity, but I guess a talented writer could have found one in our bleak, real world. Where are you when the world needs you, PWB??

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Incidentally I’ve just retired a 13 year old, 114.000 miles Mini - it died on a troubled clutch. Never underestimate the clutch…

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Or…

Given that the Brown M is (somehow) part of this world (unclear how; move on), and Zorin was a defence contractor and under Brown M’s tenure the UK Government was developing blast-impervious chip technology with him, a project that will have survived all the rest of A View to a Kill because it’s forgotten about after the first ten minutes, this EMP-proof nanobot scheme has been underway for years.

True, back in the day (whenever that was…) the best they could then do for miniaturisation was Q’s robo-perving-dog-thing (Q always was a prat), but times move on and Gary M simply refined it.

(I accept this is a stretch and ultimately rather pathetic but if multiple-entwined-world-shrinking “universes” we must have (for apparently we must), then those are what we get).

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Well, you certainly did not need an EMP to make my brain explode…

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The nanobots seem to only be a delivery system for the virus (they are already worked on in real life to deliver cancer medicine). They can be disabled by an emp but the virus cannot.

When Bond uses the limited emp he is still carrying the virus that killed Blofeld. Afterwards Safin infects him anew with the target of Madeleine and Mathilde an emp could not prevent him from infecting them or others who might infect them.

Could a vaccine against this virus be found? Maybe. But in contrast to mRNA which was worked on for decades before the pandemic this one really is totally new. Bond‘s chances to be cured would have been slim, with potentially decades of waiting in total isolation.

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Oh spare me that sentimental rubbish! :sweat_smile:

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Makes sense, or at least very much more sense than I was making. The nanobots are just the delivery mechanism for the virus - got it.

However, if Bond is not actually demonstrating symptoms of the virus but a benign host who passes it on to the target - is it the virus that is programmed for the target, or the nanobots programmed to “release it”? If the former, I suppose my question is - why have the nanobots at all, if that’s the case? Other than saying the word “nanobots” now and again to make it all sound science-y. (I am obviously not questioning any real-world application!). If the latter, then disabling the nanobots… means the virus won’t be released? (I suppose it could be passed on by other means from Bond but… in that case, why have the nanobots?).

Have now used the word “nanobots” more than the film, I expect. I will ask myself some very searching questions about my behaviour.

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A-Z 2 Electric Boogaloo time Jim. C’mon Let’s do this. :thinking:

For those of you who don’t know what I’m referring to it is the most epic CBN thread ever and it was authored by Jim.

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After a second viewing with an eye toward answering this question, Q explains that the EMP only works against hard wired networks. So if the nanobots are not hard wired, but chemically powered, then they’d survive an EMP by the films logic. Still, someone should have mentioned it. More likely they’re shielded by AVTAK or GoldenEye’s Tiger helicopter’s tech.

Either way, there’s no getting off the island in time. Had the writers wanted, there could have been an escape hatch providing at least a partial segue into the amnesia story of YOLT. But the audience knows Madeleine and Mathilde are out there, so having Bond’s memory wiped for B26 does not work. Perhaps Fleming knew this too and kept the child’s existence from Bond (a nice parallel between Madeleine and Kissy Suzuki) Once they revealed his child, Bond’s fate is doomed. Either Madeleine and Mathilde die or Bond does. And with the notion of fridging so antithetical now (though Bond films have been doing this for decades), no way are they sacrificed. Plus, we’ve seen that story a dozen times before. We haven’t seen this story.

One last thought, there are forever chemicals in our bodies and 97% of living creatures on Earth via teflon. So forever nanobots seem rather plausible.

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Exactly. Whether or not people agree with Bond himself dying, being a husband or father is always a temporary thing for him. “You only live twice, or so it seems. One life for yourself and one for your dreams.” There is nothing more cruel than what could have been. Bond’s life was laid out in front of him, but it remained a dream. He is a father, and his thinking did change, but he doesn’t get to be a father. He remains frozen in time as an assassin.

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The biggest question in my mind is if Zencat thinks this is the Best Bond Movie Ever?

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Being the biggest nanobot expert ever I would say that it is a virus which does not get transferred via respiratory action but by touch. This is where the nanobots come in. And so rapidly that one stroke of the hand is enough.

Again, killing the nanobots probably would have worked, but not the virus.

I‘m not quite sure if an infected person without nanobots could still pass the virus on to others. I would have to ask Dr. Fauci, hold on…

In any event, Bond does not have time to ponder all that. Russia and Japan are on their way and will want to get their hands on the virus factory and probably Bond as someone to experiment on, regardless of Madeleine or Mathilde being at risk.

Also… it‘s the best ending for the movie.

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Oh, that almost made me spew coffee all over my keyboard! Touché! :joy:

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Zencat only has eyes for…yo momma. He doesn’t like cock fights. He prefers to explain his big bang theory…man that movie had some bad dialogue :rofl:

I thought I was the only one who finds Goldeneye bafflingly overrated.

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Here’s a question:

In the pre-titles sequence, how can the iced-over lake take the weight of a full-grown man in a giant parka and heavy snow/ice boots and yet not handle the weight of a 10-year-old girl?

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The ice were she got to was thinner.

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Naughty nanobots

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