No Time to Die – Member reviews (Spoilers!)

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Move over, Minions!

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Here comes the Bond universe!

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One should ALWAYS discard what certain YouTube channels are speculating.

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Not a review from a member - but one that sums up pretty well what many here experienced:

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If you’re against #metoo because of it’s effect on movie scripts I think you’re missing the big picture.

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They have the best Chemin-de-Fer skills since Connery. I was impressed how they hexed Bond’s cards.

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Can I surmise you disliked The Living Daylights for similar reasons?

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And Goldeneye.

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Apologies for my tardiness…

The old “she’s-only-a-lesbian-until-a real-man-kisses-her” trope. It was offensive even then.

I would add that Severine is not able to give informed consent due to past trauma.

I think this is a possibility. SPECTRE revived many of the Bond Girl tropes of earlier eras (and not in a meta fashion, it seems to me).

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And one has to admit what gets often lost amidst all the hero worship: Bond is not (always) a nice man.

And even me putting the (always) in that sentence shows how likely we are to justify his behavior instead of recognizing that we sometimes like him because he does what we would or should never do.

Damn, now I put in a sometimes…

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On the ‘Did Bond rape Severine?’ issue:

They flirted and he invited him to her boat, where she was alone in her room, with chilled Champagne waiting. Presumably she left the door unlocked for Bond to enter, and when he entered the shower she showed no sign whatsoever of not wanting him there. You could argue that with her history he should have been more ‘sensitive’ but at the same time, isn’t it rude to assume she is so damaged by her past that she can’t enjoy sex with an attractive man, even one she has only just met?

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PWB put it brilliantly, I think: “Bond does not have to be nice to women. But the film does.”

And that’s really not how Skyfall treats Severine.

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Then again, it could also have been depicted that way to elicit a particular reaction.

If that reaction is: hah, she deserves it - then it would be the audience who is at fault here.

I think Mendes‘ intention was to show the utter ruthlessness of Silva, even implying that Bond put her in that situation - and Bond just could not give in to that. Instead he upped the game by showing Silva that he would never budge.

I think what makes it worse, in the end, is that Bond shows no remorse over Severine’s death and she is never mentioned again. PWB is right. The films need to be nice to women. Skyfall very much wasn’t to Severine.

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Re:NTTD, I thought “Die, Blofeld, die!” during the attempted strangulation was a nice touch.

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Please no. Allll the nopes. Cubby’s words to BB&MGW at the end of his life were “don’t mess it up”. His words were more colorful than that.

Bond universe would officially mess it up.

I took the “good waste of Scotch line” as him not wearing his emotions on his sleeve. He’s not exposing himself, as he had opened up with Vesper. It’s the hardening of the agent.

He’s upset about Severine, and cared about her, but won’t show that in front of Silva’s male assassins.

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I agree. That’s how I always took it.

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Absolutely. That’s a moment I really like and I’m glad the filmmakers had the guts to put it in there. Being flippant about death is pure Bond and cold hearted bastard elements should remain.

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