Me three.
The scene is barely there as it is, which is its own meta-commentary on its presence.
Me three.
The scene is barely there as it is, which is its own meta-commentary on its presence.
I disagree - in Bond movie where most characters are flamboyant and over the top I find it refreshing to see a ânormalâ one. And yes, Stacey was normal in the later half of the 80âs.
Also, she was a good balance for Walken and Jones.
Itâs actually my favorite delivery of the line. Most of the time, but not always, the delivery of the line feels as though Bond is waiting for the people around him to respond to an imaginary APPLAUSE sign thatâs located somewhere just off camera. Daltonâs take is how I would expect someone to introduce himself after guiding an on-fire parachute onto a yacht after sending his jeep plummeting off a cliff.
If I am honest I realy dislike the way he introduces himself for the first time.
It is an iconic line and he let us known here: âI know you are all waiting for me this line to say, but I am âan Actorâ and I donât care.â
So I think it is actualy the worst time a Bond actor is saying this famous line for the first time.
If he had done it like this further on in the movie, or in his second Bondmovie than it would be ok but not doing it like this for the very first time we see introducing himself.
Sad but true. It is interesting though that after four consecutive Moore films where obvious effort was made (with varied results) to pair Bond with a dynamic, competent (and in two cases theoretically equal) female partner, Eon ends his run by saying, âAhh, screw it. Letâs go back to the helpless ninny model.â
Also, she was a good balance for Walken and Jones.
Youâve got me there. I should probably be grateful we didnât get Madonna. That insult would be saved for later.
dalton writes:
Daltonâs take is how I would expect someone to introduce himself after guiding an on-fire parachute onto a yacht after sending his jeep plummeting off a cliff.
It effectively signals his approach to the character: all-business and focused on the job. In fact, the debut line readings of all the actors telegraph their approaches. Conneryâs delivery across the gaming table in DN is smugly confident and bemused, Lazenby says it like heâs as surprised about it as anyone else, Roger delivers the line with cheerful indifference to his predicament, confident in the unbreachable plot armor its utterance conveys, Dalton lets us know heâs not interested in tapping into the meta baggage of a decades-old franchise, Brosnan gets across thatâs heâs FINALLY able to say on camera what heâs been saying into the mirror for years, and Craigâs delivery, having been postponed for the entire movie and then the slow walk across the driveway and up the stairs, says, âIf youâre lucky, maybe youâll get what youâve expected from these films, but buster, itâll be on my terms.â
Hereâs the unspoken bits I hear after each actor says the line:
CONNERY: âBond, James Bond (youâre welcome for the goosebumps).â
LAZENBY: âMy name is Bond, James Bond (I know! Crazy, right!?!)â
MOORE: âMy name is Bond, James Bond (âŚand you know what THAT meansâŚ)â
DALTON: âBond, James Bond (Now scupper off, Iâm busy).â
BROSNAN: âThe nameâs Bond, James Bond (Look cool, look cool, this oneâs going in the clip reel)â
CRAIG: âBond, James Bond (Youâve waited this long, so Iâll throw you a bone. See you in two years and weâll do the âmake Bond into Bondâ routine all over again).â
Bravo! I repeated this to my husband, and he enjoyed it too.
I find the rushed iconic line in The Living Daylights just ok and the worst debut delivery of the six 007s. (Though I have gotten more used to it over the years.) Whatâs ironic, is that in the teaser trailer he says it slightly slower and it sounds better. I donât know why they didnât go with that version for the film. Similarly, in the trailer for Diamonds Are Forever, Sean Connery does a differentâand much betterâdelivery of the BondâŚJames Bond line and yet they used the worst one in the film. ![]()
And on top of Daltonâs delivery in TLD, comes his turn in Licence To Kill. People say Pierce Brosnan had a âsoftâ voice in his GoldenEye delivery and yet Daltonâs in LTK is very similar and whatâs worse is that Heller cuts off the end of Bondâs self-introduction so Dalton never got the âtraditionalâ delivery during his tenure (although Iâm sure he is fine with that).
Daltonâs tenure is all the better for not always leaning into these tired tropes, and would have been even better served if they had broken with tradition more than they did. All the âBond. James Bondâ introduction does now is serve as a moment for the audience to point at the screen and yell âHe said the thing!â and then applaud. Occasionally, like at the end of Casino Royale, it can serve as some awesome badass moment for Bond, but generally, itâs just space and time that is literally just there to check a box on a clipboard being held by someone standing just off camera.
Itâs the same reason why these films have turned into the ensemble pieces theyâve become. Theyâve taken characters who always had just served as glorified extras that are there simply to give Bond his mission, gadgets, and to help refine the characterization of the character so that we see him briefly in a setting that is not out on the mission itself into main characters in the series that are held up as essentially co-equals with James Bond himself.
At this point, Bond is an over-the-hill rock band that never puts out a new album and just tours on the hits. And, even when they do put out a new album, nobody ever says that they like it and always says that âitâs not as good as the old onesâ, whether itâs true or not.
Far too young for Moore though
Played by an actor in their late thirties upwards in the same way complete change of dynamic.
Being now 56 myself I would consider anyone under 50 as far too young for myself, simply because I am so stuck in my ways and liking it. A person who has not experienced the years I have, with no common references - what would we be talking about? And gee, all the energy of a younger person - I just could not keep up with that.
But I wonder whether the age difference must be a problem in general. And for Bond energy does not seem to be a problem. Reference points - well, at least she should know about some world politics or luxury items, I guess.
Now, is Stacey too young for MooreBond? She seems to enjoy his company, but there is no reason to think that she wants more than a fling, ending in a quick hop under the shower, maybe an additional quiche. So - why not?
Sheâs complicit because like Zorin she is aware she is in a Bond movie. She enjoys his company because she is supposed to. Looking at it through that viewpoint enhances AVTAK.
As a side bar at the bar my staff and I have a monthly Monday deep clean with beer and pizza and a movie. Very late night but worth it for team bonding. We have now watched 5 ! Bond movies
As generally a younger workforce they, in general had these takeawaysâŚ
TB - very slow, sexual politics crazy but Domino was like many in their 20s who now actively seek patrons!
DAF - laughed at everything and found âoldâ Connery nicer than the rapey one.
OHMSS - cried, loved Lazenby as he was sweetâ found it very racist in general.
Goldeneye - found Brosnan very pervy but loved the women
AVTAK - couldnât get past Moores liver spots, thought Stacey was a live action Barbie doll , secretary Barbie, construction Barbie etc.
Remarkably however AVTAK and OHMSS were firm favourites especially the fashion on display
ON HER MAJESTYâS very racistâŚ? I can understand most of these impressions up to a point - but this one escapes me. Even the book comes across restrained and responsible (compared to You Only Live Twice or Live and Let Die for example). I get that cowbells are an offence in itself, but we mustnât let that keep us from enjoying the scenery.
But the costumes are in fact top-notch and very wearable (almost timeless, provided one doesnât travel back 400 years).
Such a discerning staff. They deserve pizza with extra toppings.
Interesting take.
Moore as an aging Bond doll. Zorin as Blond Evil Ken. May Day as Black Karate Barbie.
Scratching my head alongside Dustin on this one.
Thank you MrHinx. I
you here rather than your post.
The angels of death they found particularly racist
The patron/ sugar daddy discussion really was an eye-opener for me.
And the almost unanimous opinion that Brosnan was pervy, more so than the others.
Any next one up shall be licence to kill.
We have also watched the beast must die which went down very well.
Another side bar ⌠from the discussions on this forum Iâve started a Sunday night drink along with Columbo all the regulars get involved lots of fun
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What´s racist about women eating? And why is Brosnan pervy?