What do you think about the NTTD release date?

I completely understand. I am double vaccinated now, too, but I will not risk contracting it by sitting in a theatre with strangers who might resist the sensible choice of vaccination. Even if I stay asymptomatic or have only mild symptoms, I don’t want to spread the virus because I wanted to see a movie.

If theatres were perfectly equipped with ventilation systems that work or personnel who really check the vaccination status of audiences I might reconsider. But the theatres around here can not even adjust focus or their sound system, nor clean up the encrusted popcorn from the floor. And this is a big city…

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Understood here as well. Bond was the only thing that I had been going to the cinema to see anyway the past decade or so, outside of the very odd film here and there every other year or so. Going back to 2012, the films I’ve seen in the cinema are Skyfall, Terminator Genisys, Spectre, Halloween, and Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker. Even with all of the division in the world today, I always felt like going to the cinema, even with the fact that nobody has the common courtesy anymore to allow you to enjoy the movie because they’re talking or on their cell phones or providing their own running DVD commentary from the seat directly behind you, I at least figured that, at the bare minimum, we were all looking out for each other at least in terms of keeping each other safe and healthy. I’ve never felt threatened going into a theater, but now knowing that it seems like next to nobody out there even gives the slightest bit of care as to the health of their fellow citizen, that their concerns end at the tip of their own nose, you won’t find me setting foot in any crowded, indoor entertainment venue ever again. I’ve gotten both of my shots, and still don’t feel entirely safe with two masks on for a quick trip into the grocery store, especially now that the CDC completely screwed this thing up and ditched the masks a month or so ago. Every time a maskless person walks by me, I will admit to a fleeting moment of panic just hitting me before I quickly put distance between them and myself.

And this disappoints me greatly. I really wanted to see Daniel Craig’s swansong where it deserves to be seen, on the big screen. I was one of the few who wanted him as Bond from the moment his name was first mentioned, and it feels like I’m not going to get to fully complete that journey with him. Even more of a gutpunch, after thirty years of waiting, Ghostbusters 3 will be viewed on my couch, rather than in a dark cinema with a bucket of popcorn and a tall drink. Ghostbusters 2 was the first movie I remember seeing in the cinema, and I was looking forward to getting that thrill again with the new entry, but apparently, that’s not meant to be as well.

It would really be nice if we all, as a society, could use this whole thing as a wakeup call and move back to a point where we can actually talk to each other again. I remember the comaraderie everywhere that you went after 9/11. Everyone was in it all together, helping each other through that horrible time, donating blood to help the victims, performing other selfless acts for the aid of their fellow citizens. Now, twenty years later, faced with the biggest crisis since that time, we can’t even agree that the crisis is actually happening, and shame people for taking lifesaving measures to try to help ourselves as well as each other. And what has this gotten us? The arrival of a variant that was totally avoidable, and one that’s going to put us all in harm’s way because it can spill over into those of us who did our civic duty and got vaccinated to put an end to this nightmare. None of it makes a lick of sense, and it’s just disheartening. Probably the most disheartening time I’ve been through, ever. And you can’t help but feel anything other than shame and pity.

Sorry for the rant.

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Re: the streaming option and how it’s seen from the side of the actors…

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That very well could be one of the things that would stand in the way of No Time to Die making any kind of a streaming debut alongside a theatrical release, on top, of course, of the fact that MGM needs every last penny to stay alive until they are swallowed up into the belly of the Amazon beast. Also, with Craig being a producer on these films now, I wonder where that would leave things with him, his contract, and a streaming release.

I’m not going to pretend to know whether or not the debut on Disney+ cost Ms. Johansson money that she might have otherwise gotten from the film. It sounds like they did pretty good business with the streaming numbers in addition to, for the current state of the world, doing well at the traditional box office. With Covid, I wonder what the numbers would have been for her in a straight theatrical release with no simultaneous bow on Disney+. But, even with those questions aside, if she thinks she’s been wronged by Disney, then by all means go after them. It’s not as though they’re treated her character particularly well over the course of the time she’s spent in the MCU anyway. Perhaps the real question to ask is would they have released a hypothetical Iron Man 4 on Disney+?

One thing that is almost assured, though, is that in the coming years, we’ll be seeing language in contracts to cover the possibility of simultaneous streaming and theatrical releases.

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This.

I think the rationale behind this move was that Marvel Studios saw the film as a lesser entry they did as a kind of favour for Johansson, simply because they promised her for years to do one with her in the lead.

That’s not to mean male stars are above streaming releases, see Tom Hanks’ recent film. But the modus operandi of course needs to be a renegotiation to make up for the b.o. share they lose. Or rather, a viable method to translate streaming numbers into ticket sales and vice versa.

No doubt, this is going to be a centre piece of any contract signed post-Covid.

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exactly, and that’s what everyone else (Netflix, Amazon etc) has done upfront

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I definitely get the impression that how much more experience those 2 had with the streaming model is going to benefit them greatly in terms of attracting film makers.

The limited theatrical run of The Irishman being purely down to cinemas stropping over it being paid by Netflix probably helped Netflix in that regard, they can point to that as evidence that they will put a film in as many cinemas as possible, it’s just the actual cinemas who are being difficult.

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Last night I had a dream (or was it a nightmare?) that I saw a new tv spot for No Time To Die and it had a May release date.

If NTTD was delayed again I would be disappointed but I wouldn’t be angry at MGM/EON. Save the anger for the politicians for their mishandling of the pandemic and the selfish idiots who refuse to get vaccinated.

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The basic problem of tentpole releases in the new era: much too expensive to ever become profitable….

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If box office numbers continue like this for the next few weeks, I would expect to see an announcement that Bond is moving again. Some studios may be able to absorb the financial hit, but MGM doesn’t have that luxury.

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I wonder whether they can do it if the infection numbers will not clearly mandate it. And how long can they keep the film from being released without making it impossible to recoup the already risen costs?

At some point in the near future they will have to acknowledge that there is no way to reach breakeven within the next two to five years, maybe never. What if the pandemic is over but floods and fires will prohibit people from going to the remaining cinemas?

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I’m excited! Even though i know this is going to a nightmare to find

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We already know where it’s expected to air in some countries (RTL in Germany, Viasat Film Hits in Scandi), in UK I’d imagine it’ll be either on ITV or on Sky Cinema.

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You can watch the film at home without risking death. Are people really surprised by this? Or is schadenfreude just the current drug of choice?

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I bet the narrative is driven by cinema chains: See, streaming and VOD makes you lose money!

What nobody is saying: without streaming and VOD the grosses would be desastrous.

Considering that there are some out there who believe that people should be willing to risk their lives to make sure that the economy doesn’t miss a beat, I can’t say that I’m surprised that other people might be surprised by the box office grosses here.

I mean, who would shell out $10 (or whatever HBO Max’s fee is these days) in order to watch the film in the safety of one’s own home, free from the rude distractions and the risk of catching and spreading a deadly airborne disease, when they could go through the effort to go spend somewhere north of $30 or $40 to have the aforementioned experience?

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Also: could it be that another film based on an amusement park ride is just not that big of an attraction?

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Martin? What are you doing here?
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