What Movie Have You Seen Today?

I re-watched Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters II on the weekend. I had not seen them in ages, but was reminded how much I like them. Yes, both of them. The sequel gets dumped on, but I don’t really know why. In terms of being a sequel I think it delivers because it really does feel like a proper sequel. Having the team sued for property damage caused during the events of the original was a logical narrative choice. The villain is good, and the team dynamic is still enjoyable.

The original is always going to be the favourite as it has the benefit of establishing the characters and the world, and the story can only continue from there with sequels. I haven’t played the videogame, but I will be picking up the 2019 remaster this week. With returning actors providing their voice/likeness, and the creative input of Aykroyd/Ramis, this really is the true Ghostbusters III.

Setting it two years after Ghostbusters II was also a good idea, and I think especially in hindsight of the new film saying there hasn’t been a ghost sighting in 30 years. The presence of the game doesn’t contradict that, allowing one last adventure for the original crew as they’re now thought of in legacy terms. So I’m really looking forward to getting stuck in to this.

Even if Afterlife is delayed like NTTD, I’m going to enjoy throwing myself into this universe again.

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The Hobbit 1, 2, 3 (Extended Versions)

I was disappointed by the first one so much that I watched the second one only on Blu Ray and barely made it through the third one at home without fast forwarding.

Now, years later, I find myself rereading TLOTR and thought I give these often maligned films another chance. It helped that I watched them in parts over one week, like a tv show with about 9 installments.

And in contrast to getting bored (and numb from my seat) in the cinema, I really could concentrate now on the films. Surprisingly (for me), they are made masterfully and feature fantastic sequences of spectacle and quiet character moments. Sure, the whole enterprise could have been cut down to two films in order to be really captivating. Then again, the epic length allows for a huge impact on everything, and if one wants to escape into this world it is rewarding to stay there for the length of these three films.

Yes, the action sequences feel overlong and sometimes too much like video games in which the good guys have extraodinary luck and capabilities. This is especially tiresome in the third one… but then something happens which really surprised me and affected me emotionally. And suddenly I understood that everything that came before in that, pardon me, unrealistic way was preparation for reality to finally hit.

In fact, those quiet, touching scenes, often with the wonderful Martin Freeman, remain in my mind and make me reappreciate this whole gigantic undertaking. They lift up everything else. And they, for me, are the reason to love these films after all.

Maybe I was just fed up with Middle Earth back then by overexposure, maybe the high definition projection got my attention more than the story, to its detriment. But sometimes movies just come at the wrong time. And judging them then does them a disservice.

Therefore, now I am willing to eat my hat and state that THE HOBBIT (all three parts) is a masterpiece and a worthy prequel to the RINGS trilogy.

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A DELICATE BALANCE–1973–Tony Richardson. Viewed on blu-ray from Kino Classics.

I have long loved the work of Edward Albee. The first Albee book I bought was a paperback copy of "Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf? from the stationer in the modest mall one town over from where I lived in suburban New Jersey. The cover had a headless Nick and Honey seated on a bench holding each other’s heads in their laps. What 15-year old gay boy could resist?

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I go back and forth on Mike Nichols’ film version–he kept most of the play and Elizabeth Taylor is magnificent, but she is also too young, and the element of Martha being older than George and all the shadings/implications of watching that dynamic play out are lost. George and Martha’s tribulations are transformed into a wittier episode of the Bickersons rather than the searching drama Albee had fashioned.

“A Delicate Balance” (first produced in 1966) is for me the better play–not as showy as WOOLF, but a deeper analysis of cultural malaise (I say this without having seen the WOOLF revival which just started previews, and is the first since Albee’s death. I have heard terrific things about it, but whether I get to see it is up in the air as Broadway theatres have now been closed).

In 1973, Ely Landau produced a season of films–American Film Theatre. THE ICEMAN COMETH by John Frankenheimer was first; THE HOMECOMING by Peter Hall second; and the third offering was A DELICATE BALANCE. Frankenheimer’s film is good with minimal textual cuts (he discovered that O’Neill’s repetitions could not be removed as easily/harmlessly as he thought). Hall’s film is precise, and a great record of most of the original cast, but film was not his medium. In a blu-ray extra, cinematographer David Watkin (he will lens ADB as well) talks about how Hall had everything planned out ahead of time, and that sense of pre-planning comes across while watching the movie. But this aura of filmic determinism actually works against Pinter’s script/dialogue–the double precision comes across as overkill. Elia Kazan, a much different director from Hall, was more successful with Pinter’s script for THE LAST TYCOON.

Richardson filmed ADB in an actual house in Crystal Palace, and rather than opening the film up, he closes in on his actors and their performances. Albee wrote the script (it was a non-negotiable demand on his part), so the dialogue retains its edge and self-consciousness. For me, a key element to the movie’s success are two brief shots of Agnes (Katherine Hepburn) preparing herself to enter a room (as if about to make a stage entrance), and then uttering Albee’s dialogue. With these moments and a few others, Richardson is able to signal an aura of performativity which pervades the entire film.
Dialogue comes across as both natural and aphoristic, and Richardson’s use of close-ups and two shots creates a palpable sense of people speaking to/performing for others, with the others clearly paying attention/responding to what is happening around them. Most narrative films show people talking and listening to one another, but Richardson’s heightened presentation of these acts matches Albee’s heightened dialogue, but instead of resulting in overkill as with THE HOMECOMING, they complement each other in such a way that the action and dialogue feel natural and true to life even though neither is anything of the sort. Also, Watkin’s use of natural/bounced light and a modest sound design with voices allowed to echo differently in different rooms both contribute to the naturalistic side of the film’s ledger.

Richardson’s ADB is not the only way to film a play, but it is one of the most successful examples I have ever seen.

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That’s where I grew up! I’ll have to track down this movie,

If you recognize anything, I would love to know, as well as your opinion of the movie.

Will do :slight_smile:

INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE (1989)–Streaming
INDIANA JONES AND KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL (2008)–Streaming

All the talk about Indiana Jones in the other thread led me to revisit two of the movies last night. LAST CRUSADE has always been a favorite, and I remember how much I disliked CRYSTAL SKULL when I saw it upon its release. But time and quarantine can do funny things, so here goes.

I watched CRYSTAL SKULL first since it is a film that has drawn me back over the years, and each time I have liked it a little more than the previous viewing. This time the film came across more than ever as a cartoon (THE ADVENTURES OF TINTIN is Spielberg’s next movie). The film is also full of the tropes and memento mori of the 1950’s. If Scorsese fills his films with references to earlier movies, Spielberg fills his with the detritus of pop culture–CATCH ME IF YOU CAN is an earlier example, while READY PLAYER ONE is his most extravagant and accomplished use of this approach.

Also, as much as Spielberg tried to recall his earlier aesthetic self, CS is clearly made in his late style. Janusz Kaminski does a good job of approximating Douglas Slocombe’s lighting, but Spielberg is a more accomplished director in 2008 and it shows. This growth, combined with advances in film technology, allows Spielberg to create a mobile mise en scene not possible (though sought) in the 1980’s. The movie is still a cartoon, but a more fluid one than its predecessors.

LAST CRUSADE remains the pleasure it always was, but it was made under a different aesthetic regime, and the difference between filmmaking then and filmmaking now is more apparent than ever. This change hit me strongly a while back when I stumbled onto a showing of THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. I stayed with the film for a while, and after a few scenes, the thought popped into my head: “Well, that is the only section of that set they decided to build.” I will admit that such thoughts are rarer for me than other filmic considerations, but it crystalized something I had been thinking about regarding cinematic space.

Analyzing the use of space in films was something I came to late. I was initially more interested in performance, writing, and content than in use of space. But the more I wrote and read, the more issues of space came to the fore–especially in my work on Joseph L. Mankiewicz for whose mise en scene I wanted to make a strong argument (which I was able to do citing JLM’s creation of rhetorical space as opposed to the lyrical space of a filmmaker such as John Ford). Once I got on a space kick, filmmakers such as Preminger and Hawks, whom I already loved, became even more dear to me (and some like Billy Wilder fell a notch or two).

Technology allowed a shift from movement in frame/space (and the attendant use of offscreen space of which Mankiewicz was a master) to movement within space. If LAWRENCE OF ARABIA were made today, we would not wait for the camel to reach us, we would go and meet the camel (and then circle it in a drone shot). The 1980’s and 1990’s were the transition period, and by the millennium’s turn technology allowed mise en scene never imagined before (I remember watching HEREAFTER by Clint Eastwood and thinking how much he was moving the camera as compared with his older films). The LAST CRUSADE provides the pleasure of the older aesthetic even as it gives hints of what is to come.

Lastly, I found it interesting that LAST CRUSADE could end with the upholding of Christian dogma: when asked by his son what he found, Henry Jones replies “Illumination.” In CRYSTAL SKULL, the Christian God has been replaced by interdimensional beings (I know Spielberg was not pleased with the ending, but in many ways his work fostered and aided the changeover). Insight is now replaced by spectacle, and otherworldliness succeeds interiority.

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Thank you, great insights into both films from the “space angle” (no pun intended).

I must revisit CS again, too. For me, in the cinema on first viewing I was highly entertained - but maybe that was due to my nostalgia back then, being so happy to see Indy again. Then on second viewing I was disappointed and felt that the film was surprisingly boring between the Akator sequence and the escape from the Russian jungle base and became dull again in the whole last section.

And I totally agree on the “drone shot”-routine of today. Or should I rather say of yesterday? It will be interesting to see how films will change in the future. Including Indy V should it be made.

Like Die Another Day, Crystal Skull has grown on me over the years. I personally never really had an issue with the aliens (though i wish they would’ve left it at just plain aliens) as it fits with the 1950s setting. The nuclear blast and the fridge are the worst parts of the film. I would’ve had the beginning in the warehouse not show the Ark of the Covenant as that is nothing but lame pandering. Otherwise, the film is fun and nostalgia seems to prevent people from seeing the film’s merits.

I‘m with film historian John Kenneth Muir: the fridge escape is perfectly in line with Indy‘s previous escapes (i.e. holding on to the periscope of a submarine, jumping out of a plane with an inflatable rubber boat).

an 18 year long argument between Spielberg and Lucas…if ever there was an unstoppable force meets an immovable object.

Actually, I did not see a difference. They came in a UFO, so… yep, fine with me any way.

In regards to the submarine, I always took it that the boat made the entire trip on the surface and Indy could just hang out on top. But, yes, the inflatable raft outside of a plane is ridiculous.

That’s how I always interpreted the submarine scene also.

So…looking for excuses for why impossible works is okay for Raiders but not KOTCS?

Exactly. And really, hanging on to that periscope in - um - cold water, how long can one human being really stand that?

I don´t understand why realism is used as a criticism for the Indy films anyway. They are popcorn action fantasies. The ludicrousness of it all is what is served with tongue-in-cheek Saturday afternoon cliffhanger-fun.

I actually expect and demand that stuff from Indy.

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After two hours of ridiculous scenes, God comes out of a machine to fix everything…

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Realisms relationship with Indiana Jones;
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I would say it’s perhaps implied by the realm of Indy’s ‘natural’ era, the time before and up to World War Two where the Nazis actually employed magic thinking, where Indy himself acts like a Zorro figure, where the artefacts were actually expected to be some kind of magic weapon.

World War Two then was fought and won by science, by physics and mathematics and logistics and economics. After Hiroshima there’s not much place left for the magical thinking approach, it just doesn’t fit any more. That’s why the magic/religious element of Indy to me doesn’t gel with the scientific rationale past 1945. The Nazis with their pseudo religious cult have been defeated - and taken with them the world where Indy chased the magic.

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But in the regard, the science fiction explanation works for the era in which KOTCS is set, which in itself plays with Indy feeling like the world has aged away from him, so used to these magical fantasies he feels like a fish out of water in the Science Fiction of the 50’s although both are era appropriate ideas of what could be, but pushed to extreme levels.

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And Indy always encountered supernatural phenomena (so to speak): the Ark, the Ankara Stones, the Holy Grail, and then the Crystal Skull.

In other words: it wouldn’t be an Indy adventure if there weren’t such a thing.

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