Yeah, I doubt Indiana Jones 5 will be made either. They’ve had three writers on it so far, but it’s still in limbo, as you say.
Aiming to film 2020 for a 2021 release.
Personally i’ll Believe it when I see the film, followed by the sea of Op-Ed’s of “it wasn’t as good as the other 4” much like every Indy film since Raiders has had.
First instance of the phenomenon where people say they loved the predecessor, despite heaping huge criticism on it at the time, just to complain about the new one? The Star Wars prequels and The Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy have done massively well based on that…
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Compare that to the James Bond series where, when it comes to 007, the fans love the current Bond and his films only to criticize him and those films once he’s gone and love the new Bond. Then, when that 007 has left the scene, the first Bond and his films get beloved again (whether it’s through nostalgia or a “time heals all wounds” factor or whatever) and his successor and his successor’s films are now criticized. It happened with Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton, and currently Pierce Brosnan. The same will undoubtedly happen to Daniel Craig.
(Sean Connery was beloved the entire time of his tenure whereas George Lazenby was criticized upon his arrival in large part simply because he wasn’t Connery, but over the last 20 years or so he and his film have since joined that beloved club.)
But overall, with a few exceptions which vary person to person, Bond fans love their 007s and their 007 films.
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Yeah, it’s similar. Current is masterpiece “with much better scripts” (a comment I’ve seen in actual published works about Dalton, Craig, and Brosnan) whilst their immediate predecessor is chucked in as garbage.
Though I am aware Star Wars went through this life cycle. 3, 7 and 8 got good reviews on release, the rest got savaged.
7 and 8, god help them, had to deal with twitters armchair critics on top of that.
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Rebooting Indiana Jones requires a strong lead who’s able to handle the action along with the screwball comedy - and not drown in either department, which may be the toughest requirement. There are plenty of ‘funny’ action guys out there. But many lack that particular charm that made Ford as Indy such a success.
Then again, when Ford was offered the role he was known and tested successfully largely as a supporting act, the ‘bad boy’ to Luke Skywalker, the ‘bad boy’ to Gene Wilder’s rabbi, the ‘bad boy’ of American Graffiti - and a little more naïve along Shaw’s bad boy Mallory in that Navarone sequel. His Hanover Street had tanked and Raiders was the first major part he got, no doubt also because of his connection with Lucas.
Pratt now has a number of ensemble films on his résumé and shown some of the qualities one would look for if casting Indy. He’s maybe a little less convincing in the dramatic department; the danger with him is mostly the fun comic book variety and I’m not sure it should always be that way with Indy. For the most part, yes. But always? No.
Pratt’s handicap could be that he’s too much of a buddy type - you instantly like him. Whereas Ford, when we meet him as Solo, or as Jones in the first few frames of Raiders, isn’t immediately marked as ‘the good guy’. There was some element present there that made audiences wonder at first, ‘Is this a villain?’. I don’t get this vibe from Pratt.
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You’re right, this is definitely what’s happening with Brosnan and has been for the last ten years at least. It didn’t help matters that he himself said that his films weren’t up to scratch, only for the click-bait headlines to make it look as though he was talking about his own performance.
Rumor is that Eon wants to sell. Fast forward to the 10min mark…
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It hits waaaaaaayy too many twitter fan boy talking points of the last decade to be true.
This one has been around for some time now, usually in a package with MGM’s woes. The reality of it would probably be that the best time to sell would be on a high.
Now while NO TIME TO DIE seems to be shaping up nicely - as far as one can tell from shakycam iphone footage and a stylishly minced making-of video - it’s still a long way from making a mint at the box office. Plenty of films are looking like sure fire bets and bomb spectacularly regardless - and there’s still a nasty little furuncle of people that would love to see just that happen.
Add to this the pile of expectations that already weigh on NO TIME TO DIE and you can see why it wouldn’t be a very good idea to have all and sundry chatting about your plans to sell the Bond rights before the goose is even in sight.
In my view, whenever Eon decides to do so they can have a deal. Why would anybody need to know beforehand?
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Can’t watch it - any chance of someone conveying the gist of it ever so briefly!?! 
Dude heard from a dude, whilst at a premier for DC’s JOKER, that after reading about why GEORGE LUCAS sold STAR WARS to BOB IGER at DISNEY, EON PRODUCTIONS wants to sell JAMES BOND and WARNER BROTHERS is courting them to give the rights to them for “golden boy” CHRISTOPHER NOLAN
Can you see any clues to why he’s talking through his arse?
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In all fairness, such is probably the stuff people chat about at premiers…
What an abysmal “show”. My friends and I would have done that in private before social media were there, and with the same legitimacy.
Having said that, I always thought it would be possible. And maybe BB and MGW have enough of all the massive headaches a Bond film production these days seems to be. Should they want to go out and sell, NO TIME TO DIE is probably the right point in time. It´s the last Craig film, whether they promote it like that or not, and the idea of recasting and possibly losing the momentum with the next guy, losing money with that as well - no, it would make sense business wise to sell the rights before that.
The only thing that makes me doubt it is that BB is young enough to continue and that it is THE family business. Sure, BB would like to produce other films, and the production of Bond films sucks out the air and energy for anything else. But giving away everything her father has entrusted her with for money?
Hard to believe. George Lucas did it because he was approaching retirement age, had a new life with his new wife to invest more time in, and was hurt because of all the critical backlash against him. BB is not at that point yet.
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It was the list of name drops, very few are actually involved in that story, that makes me call bull.
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By the way: I have come around the idea of giving Nolan a shot - big time. And the fact that EON decided the distribution rights should be given away only for the next film, NO WAY TO DIE, could point at their idea to let their successors sort out everything else.
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Well…yes, technically selling Eon’s rights to another studio would solve the MGM finance problems, in that WB or whoever can provide the money MGM can’t, but do BB and MGW seem like they want to sell their family business?
“Greg…listen…you know that job we’ve been gearing you for? Well, I’ve decided I can’t really be bothered with the inevitable difficulties of my job, and would rather just have the money, so…basically…i’m selling the golden goose and with it, your career”
That would be an uncomfortable discussion, yes. But I don’t think Greg needs this job, especially not if a sale were to happen. And maybe Greg does not even want to work on Bond films for the rest of his life. Maybe the unwillingness of the next generation to spend their future on Bond (shocking but quite common this wish to carve out one‘s own future) is what made BB decide: enough.
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TBH I think it’ll be another 50 years before we know the truth about where EON is right now in regards to Bond’s future
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Greg & Co may end up producing more more Bond thrillers a la “The rhythm Section”. The fact that EON is backing such an endeavour and the fact that they have signed a deal to make more movies of that sort tells me that Bonds future is going to be extremely different from its past
If it were true then TRS must be effing amazingly spectacular material for a multi decade franchise. I’m doubting that somehow
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