Before and After the Re-Watch: The Bond Films

Memories can change. And if you look at something again after some time you might notice that your opinion has changed, too. So why not apply that to our beloved Bond films?

Let´s start with “Die Another Day”.

Before:
The last in Brosnan´s tenure was the most successful of his. Everybody thought he would go on to make a fifth one. And then things changed. With the Craig era being even more successful, emulating the darker approach of Nolan´s Batman trilogy, DAD became a punching bag, the clearest example for how Bond with Craig got back on track. Often derided as Brosnan´s “Moonraker”, another example for the fourth film in a tenure going off the rails by being too much fantasy and overblown in every way, the film was hated and ridiculed, often ending up at the bottom of the list of all Bond films. Good riddance, many seemed to think, to such a silly Bond film, a creative bankruptcy. While it still was more profitable than most of the others. Which at least meant that audiences loved to pay tickets to see it.

I saw DAD twice in the cinema, and both times people responded highly enthusiastic, cheering and applauding even. The first time I absolutely loved it, the second time I was not as sold by it. And when I re-watched it at home on blu ray a few years later I also fell into the camp which stated: the first half is good, the second half is disappointing and undoes all the great work done until that hour-mark. And the CGI during that tsunami-surfing scene… horrible. Unworthy of Bond.

So I never returned to watch it. Until yesterday.

After:
The first thing I noticed re-watching DAD is how extremely fast it is moving. The editing of the story is so swift and propulsive, every scene is offering something new, there is no downtime in this movie. It never lags, it always moves the narrative forward. While that also means it does not offer a bit of breathing room to take in the scenery like the early films did, DAD at least seems to know what it has to achieve: to compete with other action films in the marketplace it is not allowed to be boring. So it takes the viewer and really flies, never letting go. And I enjoyed that immensely.

Brosnan himself is also extremely efficient here, achieving the perfect balance of seriousness, anger, amusement and charme his three previous films rarely offered all at the same time. I would argue that DAD has Brosnan at his best.

Halle Berry, while also having become a target with critics, is also very charming as Jinx, signaling she is all in on the fun (the way she ironically raises her eyebrows before she dives backwards down the cliff is perfect, also the way she gives a weary smile to the doctor in the clinic to get his hands off her by presenting a checque).

John Cleese does a fine Cleese-as-Q, Samantha Bond´s Virtual Reality Fling with Bond is fulfilling the promise of Moneypenny pining for Bond for 20 films and I enjoyed it the way audiences did (they went nuts with applause and cheering during those screenings), and Judi Dench is never pulling attention away from Bond (funny, all those four films of the Brosnan era, she and even the whole Mi6 crew stayed at the sidelines without any problems).

As for the action: the great sword fight-sequence with Bond and Graves remains thrilling, mainly because Bond can really show his anger towards Graves who returns the favor. The car chase on the ice is very entertaining, even employing the ejector seat in a creative way, and the fight on the disintegrating airplane is a captivating finale.

And the dialogue? Well, DAD does go all in on the double entendres and the silly one-liners. Introducing Mr. Kil is just about introducing this henchman and badly placed. But the final exchange between Bond and Graves is great. Would the whole film have been better if the double entendres had been scrapped? Yes. A more serious approach here, I believe, would have worked wonders. But at that time it was exactly what was expected and welcomed.

Okay, but what about the shoddy CGI? Well… when that scene came up I was prepared for the worst. And I was surprised how decent it actually looked. I have seen much worse is not the biggest compliment, but still my memory of it had distorted my opinion. Now I think it works perfectly fine with the concept of that situation. But that situation, as preposterous and absurd it might feel for some, is a typical James Bond situation at heart: all the odds are against him, but he uses what he has, improvises and comes out on top. In the next film he would climb up a construction crane, unarmed, then catch the gun thrown at him and throw it right back at his opponent. Very pared down but still kind of ridiculous. But also essentially Bond. And I love that element. This is what makes Bond Bond for me.

In conclusion:
DAD has gained a lot of ground with me after this recent re-watch. Maybe that is due to my appetite for a more fun and less serious Bond film. Maybe I was always a closeted DAD fan. Or maybe it just is a really well made film which combines everything the previous films cooked up into a stew, warming up everything with a familiar taste. It is not cuisine art, it is more like a home made meal you knew from your childhood days, adding a (at that time) contemporary flavor. Or in other words: the toy chest has been completely emptied onto the floor and you and your friends could play with every single item during a fun-filled afternoon for one more time before the adults came in during the evening.

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There’s one other aspect we rarely mention when discussing DIE ANOTHER DAY, which may or may not explain some of our reactions to the film - back then (see Zencat’s famous review) and today.

When principal photography started in January 2002 it’s just been four months since the defining seismic event of this century. Many of the adult population in the western hemisphere had for the first time in their lives witnessed - experienced - situations of mortal danger; had seen for the first time real people, fellow citizens, neighbours, friends, spouses die in horrific ways far beyond what they even dared imagine.

I remember discussions in the weeks after about how it was impossible now for Hollywood to continue churning out casual ‘action’ fare as if this hadn’t happened. Evidently, it was not just entirely possible but also just what audiences wanted to see.

And yet…there was a moment of uncertainty, a point where the industry didn’t quite know how to respond with its toolbox. Where writers, directors and studios hesitated.

Mind you, that moment was just the briefest blink. It didn’t stop XXX from being released, or ‘24’, or 2 FAST 2 FURIOUS - but DIE ANOTHER DAY was nonetheless made in that atmosphere and many of us who watched it that Christmas 2002 were glad there was a Bond film again, a return to a lighter, cosier side of a genre we craved. Silly, stupid, even ludicrous in its supervillain and his 1960s-Marvel-comics scheme.

This film resonated with people at a time when many felt our world was shifting. It happened back then because the silliness of it all wasn’t threatening like events in the real world.

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Good points secretagentfan. I concur with just about all of them. I’m glad you enjoyed your experience. I don’t think Die Another Day deserves all the hate it gets. It is far from perfect–there are waaaay too many one-liners and many of those are cringe-inducing, the tsunami surfing scene’s CGI leaves a lot to be desired (I love the concept, but the execution was lacking although I don’t hate it as much as others do–I initially cringe when I see it and then just roll with it because the concept is so Bond using his wits and ingenuity to get out of his near-impossible situation. :grinning:), and the villain being knighted after less than two years of being known bothers me.

But the film is all about fun and escapism–something the following Daniel Craig films–other than Casino Royale–lacked. You’re right about Pierce Brosnan. This is a very solid performance. I kind of go back and forth between this and Tomorrow Never Dies as his best. Whatever one thinks of his films (and I’m a lover) he is NOT the problem. I wish we could have gotten more John Cleese as the quartermaster. He was a perfect successor to Desmond Llewelyn. While I thought his entrance was too buffoonish in The World Is Not Enough, he is pitch-perfect in DAD. Another good example of “if only Brosnan had gotten to do another Bond film.” I also enjoy Toby Stephens’ smarmy and sneering Gustav Graves. He looks like he’s having a blast playing his character.

Additionally, the sword fight is excellent and the highpoint of the film. The PTS is also enjoyable and unique in having a hovercraft chase–can’t remember ever seeing one of those on film. It was also kind of nice seeing the villain have a gadget-laden car to even things out, but nothing can top the use of the ejector seat. Well done creative team on that one. Very cool.

Regardless of whether it ultimately succeeds or not–for better or worse–one cannot claim that DAD is holding back in putting it all on the screen. And despite its faults, Die Another Day IS entertaining and manages to give the people what they want–FUN. We need that back.

P.S. I’d take 100 DADs over one No Time To Die any day.

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I think it deserves more hate than it gets. On the other hand, it is my mid-20s son’s favorite Bond.

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Glad to hear it. I don’t think DAD is an artistic revelation in the same way as MR, or a Bond film I’m reaching for ahead of others. But it’s nonetheless a fun time and has been bashed into something more outrageous than the ice wave itself. I loved it as a kid, questioned that viewpoint sometime after and then decided to enjoy it even in the face of potential embarrassment. It’s just a movie and there’s some good content in there. I stand by this post I made in May 2018:

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Thanks for the great responses, guys!

I would love to see you tackle a movie this way, too, especially those who are not remembered fondly.

On the other hand, those films who are considered as supreme might not hold up under the scrutiny of a rewatch these days.

Maybe I should look again at… OHMSS?

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I was not in the “loved it at first blush but grew to hate it” camp. I hated it first time out, started looking at my watch with a half hour left to go and only stuck it out because I knew if I left early, I’d end end up coming back to it at a later date to satisfy my morbid curiosity about the end. When I did leave I told the missus I was done with Bond (another promise broken!).

I’ve tried to watch it again now and then and can never manage it for long. Maybe you’ve hit on the winning formula by spacing out viewings by 22 years. It’s worth a try, so I’m marking my calendar for 2046. Thanks for the inspiration.

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Should we plan that far ahead in our age?

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For anything else, no. For DAD I’m willing.

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I have not watched DAD in a very long time (like most of the Brosnan films save GE). I enjoyed it when it came out because I thought a bad Bond movie is better than no Bond movie. DAD is near the bottom of my list almost every time I do a ranking of the films. That said, I loved the first half of the movie and wished it would have continued in that vein.

I will give it a re-watch along with the other Brosnan films this winter (I meant to get to it earlier this year). I doubt my view will change but I’m sure I will enjoy it as every film has some great moments. I never had a problem with Brosnan who I thought was an excellent Bond. I always believed he was underserved by the movies that he was in with the exception of GE.

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Take the Kil/Jinx/Bond fight for instance, which would have the reputation of being ridiculous. Maybe it is. But it still has grounding in what came before. Red lasers were established way back in GF and appeared again during TLD and GE, with the blue kind appearing in MR. DAD took that concept and ran. The same thing applies with space weapons. Icarus leaves Blofeld’s satellite for dead in terms of raw power, and GE was purely electromagnetic.

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“THE SPY WHO LOVED ME”

Before:
First Bond film I ever saw. Turned me into a Bond fan for life. So, yes, I’m biased.

It always was my favorite Bond, and before I re-watched it in the last weeks I did not think my opinion would change.

After:
Well… it absolutely holds up. This is a fast paced, always entertaining Bond adventure, hopping from continent to continent, mixing the over the top spectacle with the down to earth spy genre, even giving Moore the chance to be vulnerable and serene in the famous scene in which he confesses to killing Anya’s lover - something which mirrors his own hurt when she alludes to Tracy. It´s these little and not overplayed moments which delineate Bond´s character effectually and efficiently. This is how it should be done.

And maybe it´s just my bias - but I love how the smooth and laid back “Nobody does it better” winks at the audience, encapsulating Moore´s Bond as a guarantee for a completely relaxed time at the movies.

I love this film.

“ON HER MAJESTY´S SECRET SERVICE”

Before:
I always had mixed feelings about this one. Yes, I know - pretty faithful to the novel, beautifully shot, perfect score, Diana Rigg, Telly Savalas, that shock ending.
But I also never really thought Lazenby was, you know, good. I often got bored during the first half. And despite the good ski action I never really enjoyed this film that much.

After:
Complete reversal. For the first time I was absolutely intrigued and interested, terrifically entertained and carried along by the story.

And for the first time I even loved George Lazenby as Bond.

A weird reaction, particularly after all those decades in which he remained my least favorite Bond actor. Now I can finally appreciate how his brash arrogance is just an armor behind his vulnerability can show in the scenes with Tracy and during the chase from Piz Gloria when he is about to run out of chances. Even the last scene now made me feel for him. Hunt directed him very well, using his lack of experience by relying on his instinctual charisma.

I still think the middle section could be shortened, and Tracy showing up could have been alluded to before (maybe even in a scene in which she fears for Bond´s life and decides to search for him against her father’s wishes). But this is all armchair warrior-thinking. The re-watch definitely turned this into one of my favorites and shot it up my ranking, probably into the top 5.

MOONRAKER

Before:
Hey, it was my second Bond film, and as a Star Wars fan I loved all the space scenes, too, so all that talk about being a kiddie flick, not serious enough for Bond, never changed my mind. Also, about one and a half hour was a typical Bond spy extravaganza anyway.
So for this re-watch I expected “Moonraker” to put a smile on my face once again.

After:
And it did. No spoiler alert necessary. This is just comfort food for me, bringing back childhood memories. And Barry’s masterpiece score (hurry, buy the perfect and complete presentation from LLL now!) remains as thrilling and haunting as ever.

But… especially after “THE SPY WHO LOVED ME” I did notice that “MOONRAKER” is less focused on a thrilling story, leaning more on strung together set pieces. Moore definitely aged in the two years between both films (might also be the horrible kidney stone incident showing). And while Lonsdale is one of the best villains in the whole series, the threat of his plan seems less scary than Stromberg´s, probably due to the whole out there space station humbug (I can rather fear nuclear missiles leading to World War III.) Also, the final Luke Skywalker moment of shooting down the poison globes is not that thrilling nor as clever as the new programming of the nukes in SPY with the ensuing race against time to save Anya.

Nitpicking again, sure. But the re-watch, while making me appreciate all those dialogue-free, pure cinema sequences, did knock “Moonraker” a few places down my ranking, making room for the more down to earth Bonds.

But that may just be my current mood, of course.

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The opening segment of the film is fine, but I think OHMSS really comes alive with the safecracking sequence. I love that if Bond didn’t successfully break in to the office the rest of the film wouldn’t happen. It’s a pivotal moment. The heart and soul of the movie is Switzerland and the helicopter journey to Piz Gloria wonderfully alludes to the future adventures to come. Skiing, avalanche damage, the cable car and bobsledding. That’s our playground for the rest of the movie and it just gets better and better as it reaches its conclusion. By the time it ends you’re on board with the new fella and want more, but can’t have it. The whole thing is beautifully tragic and unique.

Excellent.

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Inspired, wholly, by this post, I allowed OHMSS to be watched by me for the first time in years

Some observations:

The safecracking scene - the construction site next to Gumbold’s office is splashed with Draco Construction logos. Never appreciated it before; very neat.

Have always thought Lazenby’s evident uncertainty adds an element to his choices, that Connery’s general depiction of superhumanity wouldn’t have let breathe.

It’s all one big story, from Dr No onwards. They can do it. Accident/coincidence it may be but the ending tops off the Sixties perfectly, leading to everything pretty much being shed for the 70s and a regenerated approach. I know the references back in the titles and then through the film are there in the instant to reassure the audience that it’s still Bond, but an arc is easy to retrofit here, the carefree superman brought totally down by the end of it.

They’re confident enough not to have to explain Blofeld at any length. It’s all one story before it comes to a horrible end.

There’s less made of SPECTRE in the book than in the film; suggestion in the book is that Blofeld is now an independent (albeit with a similar staffing structure) rather than in partnership with others (due to the need for security). Film much blunter on it still being SPECTRE.

Not sure why they abandoned the nasty bobrun death of one of the underlings. There’s only so much time, I accept.

Not sure why Campbell doesn’t get more love as a victim; he actuially helps Bond at a critical time and without him, Bond would get nowhere. Seems to be one of the more useful ones. Perhaps it’s because there’s only limited interaction with Bond himself.

Lazenby’s suits are fantastic. He does wear them so well.

Tracy’s behaviour at Draco’s bullfighting party is so magnificently snotty, she immediately becomes a more appealing figure than the slightly wan depiction of the book. You can see why. Probably good acting, but a decent script too.

Are any of those bullfighters injured? It does look exceptionally dangerous.

Although I like the scene in the book where some bod who knows the real Hilary Bray approaches Bond, clever work-around in the film to make the whole complex private so this can be excised. (It could be a scene used in a future film where Bond is undercover as a real person). It’s a tense little sequence in the book but can see why they decided not to use it.

The ongoing assumption in the film that Hilary Bray is homosexual is tremendously funny.

First couple of minutes is all about “Bond goes rogue”. First time?

The subsebquently regular pattern of go silly then draw it back for the next one comes through here, in comparison to You Only Live Twice. This could have gone very silly indeed, given that it’s about a man with no earlobes hypnotising some daft international crumpet on top of a mountain.

Bizarre editing glitch in opening car “chase” where Tracy moves to overtake on Bond’s right but understandably then takes him on the left.

Why Portugal, for the Draco sequences, given that he’s still the head of the Union Corse? Other than it all looking so nice.

If all the girls are under hypnosis at the same time, how is Nancy able to join Bond in his room whilst the treatment is underway? I appreciate plot expediency, but this doesn’t make much sense unless it’s a very subtle suggestion to the audience (if not Thicky Bond) that the treatment is a sham.

Can anyone spot what Joanna Lumley’s character’s allergy might be?

Bond using the sporran to hide his means of getting out of his room; I am doubtless very slow but can’t remember noticing that before. Again, good fun.

Is the time of year actually conducive to Blofeld’s plan working? Northern Hemisphere, anyway.

The girl eating the banana in the way she does, during all the talk of beazants - utter filth and gloriously so.

Although the Charles Gray Blofeld is much, much closer to the description of the Count in the book, the Blofeld of the book is a bit of a silly character and the Savalas Blofeld does fit here.

The look of it, and the set-ups, especially in incidental scenes such as the machine-gunning of the telephone kiosk; a lot of thought obviously went into this and it shows. Presumably Lazenby was so much cheaper they had some more money to spend in other areas. Unlike the next one along.

I suppose the overall impression is how much it actually suits an end of an era; that I feel coming thoughout it quite strongly, even if not the intent. Some of that may be hindsight but it really does come through now not as an oddity but a top-and-tail of a pocket universe.

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When I was in Switzerland with Charles Helfenstein, we also made a short trip to Bern to visit some locations. When we went to see the Gumboldt offices, I decided to use the underground car park at the railway station, as it was nearby. When we got outside, I realized that we just left the building that was still under construction in the movie. It’s the Bern railway station :laughing:

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Loved that detail. I believe the book even mentions Draco being invested in some construction company or other if memory serves (which it often doesn’t).

That said, I still struggle to get the general necessity of the operation. The plan, as in the book, was to send Bond as Bray, with description and pics of Bond sent forward so he’ll be picked up. All this stunt can achieve is learning Blofeld’s address in Switzerland - shouldn’t Bond’s Minox camera have done the trick to duplicate the file?

My private theory is that perhaps Blofeld’s spy at the College of Arms made the elaborate operation necessary and it was kept - other than the informer - because it was a nice sequence of suspense. But that’s entirely speculative.

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Yes, can see that - we now have to go another way, and it involves bringing Draco in. But true, can have that happen and still have it reasonably logical havng cut the chase of the informer at the College of Arms.

It may explain - may - why Blofeld isn’t immediately on guard about recognising 007 as the opportunity to learn in advance who was really coming got thrown off a building (or however that chase was to end).

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Never understood the necessity of using that bulky photocopier instead of a camera. Surely, it can only be one reason: Xerox paid more than Minox for being in that scene.

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I suppose the answer might really be just that: it looks spectacularly beautiful and at the same time just that bit exotic (read: hasn’t been done to death already). And the bullfighting is a Portuguese specialty: since 1836 the bulls aren’t killed any more and the fighters are unarmed.

I imagine a location scout coming back to Eon house with some atmospheric shots and perhaps the offer by some rancheiro to stage a fight at their property did find a nice cheque in the Christmas card that year.

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