I’m just going to set this right here and watch the speculation ensue…
(same cabin as in Norway - different angle)
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I’m sure it will all make sense when we see the film. Now, not so much.
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Oh. Now, that’s interesting. So the cabin features at different parts of the film. So if the winter filming was a flashback (I’m sticking with this), there is a reason to return in the summer and presumably in the present day. I’m intrigued.
This also means we now know quite a few scenes we have seen snippets of are most probably linked, and presumably all set in Norway:
- forest cabin in winter
- cars driving on Atlantic Road in Norway
- continuation of cars driving in forests in Scotland
- forest cabin in summer
As for what that all means for the plot… not a clue!
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Those frescos give me the vibe of Lucia Sciarra’s villa in SP.
Its clearly a genetically modified cabin that time travels
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Well hell, now there’s no need to even watch the movie.
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Very much agreed. They’d be venturing way too far into Austin Powers territory with the franchise at that point.
Isn’t cloning also part of the plot of Agent Under Fire?
Is the only source of the cloning plot the same one who claims the title is Genome of a Woman?
Yes, with much other blatant bollocks as Rachel Weisz is calling the shots. It’s a laugh riot, truly.
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Cloning is a difficult theme for various reasons. Firstly, whoever has a passing knowledge of the topic knows there’s a genotype (the DNA or genome of an organism) and a phenotype (the way the organism actually looks) and both can be very different from each other*. Just ask - or better don’t - how many ‘models’ the pet clone industry burns through until they arrive at a specimen that’s looking like the one the customer ordered…
So even if you’ve got the DNA of a human and the know how and technology to clone another living human from it, the clone would almost certainly not look exactly like the original. And you’ve got the added problem that a clone of an adult would take the same time to grow as that adult did.
Which brings us to the real problem for any story with clones: why bother? Even if some ruthless and brilliant scientist could clone, say, Madeleine for example - what would be the aim?
And this is a much more serious problem story wise than one would initially think. You’d need a pretty good reason to go to such lengths; outside of a person madly in love with a lost partner it’s not really convincing for thriller purposes. A cloned politician or some other genius probably wouldn’t cut it. Chances are they wouldn’t even turn out useful. The weak point in Ira Levin’s Boys from Brazil is that clones of Hitler are just not Hitler. May not even turn out necessarily bad. The genes are not everything.
In SF clones are used quite frequently because SF needs not bother itself with the actual hurdles. But note here that SF often also uses an added device or technique to transplant/copy the entire ‘software’ of a subject, memories and emotions and psychological makeup, onto the clone. And this is something so far out that it’s not seriously anywhere within our abilities outside the cyberpunk genre.
I doubt that producers would do Bond a favour by going in this direction.
*Actually this is nonsense: they are two different things. What I wanted to say is, you can have several different specimens with the same DNA.
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If that’s a passing knowledge, then I’m a gooseberry! Calling you Prof. Dustin from now on 
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It’s the whole plot. DAF touches on cloning too I believe.
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Pretty sure that source never actually mentioned cloning by name. Presumably there are other things scientists can do with people’s DNA besides cloning.
Havn’t played that in years. I remember enjoying it, but preferring it’s two immediate sequels (Nightfire and Everything or Nothing)
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I love all 3, but AUF is a little rough around the edges. The game is very short (I think I’ve finished it under an hour and half before) and you don’t get to fight the main villain, but the game play is crisp and it’s a great looking game especially for 2001. Nightfire is far more polished and tells a more detailed story (the console version anyway, the PC version isn’t as good). I consider EON to be 2004’s Bond film and a wonderful coda to the Brosnan era. It is even more OTT than DAD, but that works for a game. Willem Dafoe is excellent as Diavolo. Shame he was never a Bond villain in a proper film. I firmly believe that Dafoe, Jeremy Irons, and Ciaran Hinds are 3 actors that should have been Bond villains. But that’s a topic for another thread. I rank these 3 games: Everything or Nothing, Nightfire, Agent Under Fire.
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Agree on all points.
It’s the whole plot. DAF touches on cloning too I believe.
…Hence the lines “And now we come to phase four: the nose - in my opinion the most difficult part of a plastic transformation” and “You killed my only other double, I’m afraid. After his death volunteers were understandably rather scarce.”
I take it the second line refers to the guy in the mud bath who wasn’t Blofeld - yet, as he hadn’t been cloned…?
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DAF doesn’t involve cloning. They were doubles, created with plastic surgery and voice implants. Basically the same as the guy in Thunderball, come to think of it.
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