The Rhythm Section (EON Productions)

It also goes to show how extremely difficult it is to launch an original film without pre-established market value if even EON cannot really push this film enough.

Or - it might already be decided to delay it again.

Or - it might have been already written off.

But why should there be a Bond of any colour? It´s the same lazy argument as female Bond. I´m waiting since ten years for a well made John Rain Movie who is japanese btw for those not knowing the books, but nothing is happening.


For those who haven’t seen the Underground poster


Point is, there’s nothing in the books that specifies white in terms of the characters role. Whilst Fleming made a few remarks regarding appearance, he would happily change details on a whim - Bond only became Scottish when Fleming met Connery.

The main thing to remember; this is not a democracy. There won’t be a female Bond because the practice of gender switching male characters is not one BB cares for, she’d rather make a new film for a woman (hence The Rhythm Section) but doesn’t have any qualms regarding ethnicity so if she likes an actor for the role, he will be cast regardless of what the studio, “fans” or click bait articles think.


The thing is that, from an audience’s perspective, it doesn’t matter whether Bond is perhaps of African or Indian ethnicity*; this is just not an issue for the average moviegoer. Sure, the argument that Bond was written differently 70 years ago is valid - only hardly anybody cares what film-Bond’s background is or isn’t supposed to be any more. Few of the audiences have even read Fleming - like few of the Holmes audiences in theatres or the BBC have read ACD. The adaptation of fictional characters in more or less original storylines is not supposed to be ‘authentic’ any more. If it ever was.

*Seldom mentioned in the context is that Bond could just as well have a part of his ancestry in India - what would be the difference for the audience?


Something I do lament, as both Fleming and ACD were fantastic writers.


It’s also likely that number 7 has been on EON and specifically BBs radar for some time now, it seems to be the way she operates, particularly after reading Campbell’s initial thoughts on DC.
It would be very unlikely that a succession plan weren’t in place albeit in the background for at least the last 3 years.


No doubt - but while people still do read they read slightly different stuff today; size and formats have changed, genres have developed. At Fleming’s time a work like Lord of the Rings was cut into three books and considered a milestone of the genre - today bigger doorstops are published every month. Series characters went from pulp to 600 or 800 pages - while the entire Sherlock Holmes would fit into one tome.

Readers come to a book with different expectations than film audiences do. And many of these film audiences hardly pick up books at all nowadays, especially the younger ones. The translation from page to screen, from the imagination to the image has become the major cultural deciphering effort for large parts of the populace.


Funnily enough my eldest son was given a suggested reading list to then have a discussion in class about styles of writing, his English teacher included Baskerville’s, Casino Royale and The Big Sleep. Which delighted both my son and I as some of the course work for homework discussion can be a slog (for me) it may be that they shall start to be properly reassessed as historical literature.


Well, but for the most important part (the money) it is a democracy. If the next film does only half box office or less like Ghostbusters or Men in Black … the voters have spoken.

Of course he could. It is still about keeping the sophisticated british end up :wink: , but with only 2 percent of GB being indian it´s not very likely to find someone like SC…

Depends if you are looking for a Sean Connery in the first place - I don’t think that is the case any more. The Connery benchmark has been considered as the gold standard of Bond. But trying to follow it has shown to be more restrictive than helpful.

Today, you would first look at acting abilities, charisma and presence - not trying to find some chap who happens to resemble Connery in one or two departments, simply to find him wanting in the end anyway. If you’re looking to recast you need to find an actor whose presence and range can incorporate everything from charming to dangerous, from ironic to serious, depending on the particular direction you want the next Bond to take.

And once you found that candidate you open your eyes, that’s how easy it is.


Are half the audience KKK members?

I think you can refuse the idea of a Bond outside the traditional casting pattern for a variety of reasons, just look at Craig’s example. Some of these reasons would be in the range of ‘but…but…MY BOND!blubberblubber’ - and some would be reasoned and solid arguments. Both is possible as we continue to see since 2006. Some people never got warm with Craig, in spite of being longtime fans. And it didn’t hurt the franchise at all. Maybe the next actor will charm them again, who knows?

What seems increasingly obvious is that audiences as a whole put much less importance on matters a limited number of hardcore fans considers as point of identification with a franchise. Even with the added help of internet trolling and shouting matches most targeted productions find their audience - provided the quality is there.

For Bond I think the idea of a non-white actor in the role would be much less of a dealbreaker than tabloids would make us believe. If it’s somebody bringing the charm and charisma that befits the role and the specific film there’s every chance people will want to see it.


Probably true, but would BB bet the farm on it?

She went with Craig despite MGW, Campbell and MGM being against it. She is very much her fathers daughter.


I think if you had now - this specific moment in the Bond series - Idris Elba aged 30 to 32, then she would have a solid case to argue with the studio. I don’t even think it would be an everything-or-nothing bet because people would give Elba a chance simply out of curiosity. And with a solid story and a top notch production to let him shine it could be far more than just a publicity stunt.


Indeed! Elba circa The Wire would’ve been very interesting. Stringer Bell as bond would’ve brought the same gritty edge as Craig. But now he (like me) is over the hill.

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WOW! I love how the camera stays in the car! It looks as if Lively is driving herself, it heightens the tension and the fear - just marvelous! If the whole film can surprise with such immediacy it will be brilliant!