What do you think about the NTTD release date?

threadjack Oh hell yeah!!! As a historian and retired Navy ship driver, I say bring it!!! end threadjack

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Add all the deleted scenes, bump the runtime up to 3 hours and stream it.

If a blockbuster were to make the digital jump to streaming/VOD/PVOD model, I think the first would be Mulan. The article makes the point of China not having Disney+ an obstacle to this particular film’s release plans, with Disney planning on this being a success in China as much as the U.S.

Still, while Mulan is part of the Disney franchise of live action animation adaptation releases it’s not part of a connected universe like MCU or Bond of late. Disney is both studio and streamer in this case. I think Warner Bros. is banking on the Snyder Cut of Justice League to test the waters on HBO Max before risking Wonder Woman 1984 on such an endeavor. Disney+ needs content, the don’t yet have the production chain of Netflix and Amazon. If Mulan is successful enough, I can see Black Widow following suit. They’d have to throw a cut back to the theaters for breaking the industry model, and theater chains desperate for revenue might concede the point by then.

Tenet is something entirely new, and it could make or break the mold whichever way it decides to go. If that way doesn’t make money, the other side will say, “See? Should have released it this way!” If it makes money, one side says, “See? We were justified in our release strategy.”

Warner Bros. and Disney have other products to profit from, not so much EON with NTTD. So I don’t see EON taking that risk in the foreseeable future. They’ll be more like a pandemic cruise ship, endlessly sailing in circles waiting for a country to open up for them to put into port.

I think the powers that be might wait to see how Tenet does in all the markets they’re talking about releasing it in before making a decision on whether to go ahead with the planned November opening for NTTD. If Tenet bombs, I fully expect NTTD to be moved to 2021.

2021 seems optimistic.

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Until I am watching the credits, after seeing the entire film, and the words “James Bond Will Return” appear on screen, I won’t ever believe the 25th Bond film will ever come out.

I hope they use this time to start work on the next Bond (if there is one … ). Perfect to workout a storyline and to decide who’ll play it next. So when the world goes back to normal they’re ready to pick up the camera and start filming.

Imagine if they don’t. The interval between SP and NTTD was already too long to begin with. A setback like DC injuring himself isn’t that farfetched. But it does delay it even further… Covid is just bad luck… But I hope they don’t waste this …

I’m 31 now and hope to see more than 2 before I’m 40. ( Is that too much to ask? :frowning: )

I am so happy NTTD is finished. If it wasn’t, I think there was a chance it might never get made.

Eon is just an independent production company, they have no control on release dates - we would have had far more Bond movies since 02 if they did - given it’s the distribution (And co-owner) who is in serious debt and has had to keep begging for money.

It’s MGM and Universal, as distribution, who decide release. Universal were the first studio to move an intended cinema release to VOD, and MGM are releasing Bill & Ted simultaneously in both cinemas and on demand. At some point both will want (in MGM’s case need) whatever money they can get from NTTD, and neither group has been adverse to streaming what was supposed to be in cinemas…

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Universal just made history - struck a deal with AMC ending the ban on their films (including NTTD internationally) and shrinking the US theatrical window from 90 to 17 days - just three weeks.

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Effect on NTTD - I think between this and the undoubtful pressure from non-US cinemas following the Tenet thing, it’s gonna stay November. Potentially PVOD by end of the year (in the US at least). They’re still working out the details of the deal internationally (eg the effect on Odeon in the UK - where exclusive theatrical window is 16 weeks). That being said MGM still retains global digital distribution for the film but since they’re doing Bill & Ted day and date in the U.S…easily can piggyback.

Hopefully, this means there won’t be another delay for No Time To Die.

Vouchers for NTTD on PVOD – the Xmas present of 2020.

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My ending ellipsis now looks like I was giving you a drum roll.

This is a massive change in policy - and I am totally surprised why the trades hardly mention this in the appropriate manner.

We’ve taken a huge step towards watching NTTD at home.

But isn’t it cineworld who lose out? AMC theatres Offered it, so people who want to watch films in a theatre can go to AMC theatres - the rest will wait for VOD

I don’t see that many people insisting on a cineworld specifically.

I should say, I’m not American, I’ve no idea how far apart cinema chains are in the US

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But even that assumes people desperately want to go to a cinema - I, admittedly on a personal level, don’t see studios being so picky on cinema choice. It is GENUINELY an option that it’s release on VOD alone, release at AMC with 17 days break before VOD, or just not release at all.

…if it was any other company than MGM I’d agree - but it’s Universal who came up with this and MGM can’t necessarily afford to wait, as a company already limping.

No way WB agrees with that for Tenet though.

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It’s a weird place - risk 50% of 50% (at best) with a 17 day wait, or 50% of 100% (again at best) but with a longer wait - given not many are going to want to go to a cinema at the moment.

Not a choice I’d want to make.

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A lot can happen until then, and it may turn out be a clever move by both Universal and AMC that they made this deal now, with both parties being happy with the conditions. Everyone else seems to be dead certain that anything will be more or less back to normal soon - but I doubt that it will.

When NTTD was pushed back to November, many people thought that they’d overdone it and that they should have planned for a summer release. Now that summer has come, it turns out that even November could have been too optimistic. The same could happen with this deal.

There’ll be the point when cinema operators are going to realize that they can’t win. They won’t be able to sell enough tickets due to restrictions - if they’re allowed to open their theatres at all - and a certain percentage of the audience simply won’t go to a cinema. Cinemas just won’t be able to make enough money to satisfy the movie distributors. With this deal, they have the opportunity to sell popcorn for three weeks and then take their share of the VOD money. The sooner a deal is made, the better the conditions for them. With no deal or even a boycott, they earn nothing. Their boycott threats are nothing but “whistling in the forrest”, as we say in Germany. Make some noise, maybe the big bad wolf will be frightened and stay away. When the pandemic is over, it’s highly possible that they won’t be there any more to boycott anything.

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